Bush Gives Until Monday For Iraq To Disarm

Officer Tay · 03-16-2003, 09:28 PM

LAJES AIRBASE, Azores (March 16) - On the brink of war with Iraq, President Bush said at a crisis summit that Monday would be the last day for diplomatic efforts to peacefully disarm Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

"We concluded that tomorrow is a moment of truth for the world," Bush told a news conference on Sunday in the Azores joined by the leaders of Britain, Spain and Portugal.

"Tomorrow's the day that we will determine whether or not diplomacy can work," Bush said. He confirmed that Monday would be the last day a U.S.-backed resolution to authorise war could be voted on at the U.N. Security Council.

Once diplomacy was exhausted, U.S. officials said, Washington would move to a war footing and Bush would address the United States as early as Monday, issuing a final ultimatum to Saddam and giving aid workers and others time to leave Iraq.

The U.S.-backed resolution, which faces a French veto even if the needed nine votes to pass it could be found, would demand that Saddam eliminate alleged weapons of mass destruction programs by Monday. A Spanish source briefing reporters on Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's plane said Spain was not confident the votes were there.

Aznar and British Prime Minister Tony Blair said one final round of diplomatic contacts would be made in a last-ditch effort to win agreement on an ultimatum for Saddam that would authorise war.

Shortly after the summit, Saddam displayed fresh defiance, saying Iraq would fight "anywhere in the world" if the United States invaded.

Looks like we are in for another war...

urseus · 03-16-2003, 10:26 PM

Sunday Monday HAPPY DAYS

Tuesday Wednesday BOMBING DAYS

i love how wars are on schedual nowadays. Like having a caesareian so you can fit in a business lunchion afterwoods.

maverick514 · 03-17-2003, 02:04 AM

Yea, they will be a war!

I would also like to, no matter if your for the war or against, to pray for all the soldiers who are fighting for freedom, there are many guys, many younger than the guys in here, that are risking thri lives for the good of the American Nation. My brother is a pilot in the Persian Gulf, and I pray for him constatly. Please, think of them before you start bashing America

And for the Iraqi soldiers, I hope you have read the pamflets.. defect and live another day, because if you don't, your demise is coming... there is no reason for thier deaths, just Saddam and his high level thugs...

urseus · 03-17-2003, 02:33 AM

So we pray for whitey, but not the heathen godless scum is that what your saying?

The Selecter · 03-17-2003, 02:44 AM

Well, yeah thats what poeple do. The other side is always the bad guys.

I hope everyone knows this war has nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction. If it was, we would have done something when he used poison gas on the kurds and killed 100,000 of them.

Wars ( for the attackers purposes ) are only fought for 3 reasons : to gain control of valuable natural resources they have , to eliminate threats to your power, and to turn attention away from other areas.

Anyone that actually believes that this is about weapons of mass destruction has no ability to reason motives and causes of someone elses actions. A high diet of TV and a lack of reading books about important things and especially history tends to cloud ones mind.

If you know history and the past, you can know the future as well, for mans basic drives have not changed in thousands of years, only his methods.

maverick514 · 03-17-2003, 03:01 AM

So, what is this war doing?
Natural Resources - Today Bush and Blair both said that the natural resources would be given to the poeple of Iraq, so we cant take it now...

Turn away the attention - well, the ecomony isnt great, but people are still doing well. YOung just married couple pay thousands of dollars for a 1 - wekk vacation, everyone still has the money to crows stores during the weekends... there is no food crisis, people still have money, so it's not that

To elimnate threats to your power - since its not those to, it has to be this one? I think your reasoning is wrong... maybe to the world? Saddam cant elimnate the power of the US, but he can kill millions upon millions by selling his weapons to terrorists..

Also, I "prayed" that the Iraqi people defect, so they don't have to die

urseus · 03-17-2003, 03:05 AM

How considerate of you.

Let us hope that all nations in future will surrender their homelands to superpowers of the world. Its just so simple.

Cpl. Reynolds · 03-17-2003, 03:07 AM

Bush planned this war from the first day of his administration. 9/11 had nothing to do with it, it just gave him a great rationale. Read the papers today and find out the truth, he wanted Saddam killed when he took office and was planning it out already. This war was inevitable because Bush is clearly a war monger. He has to make up for his deficiencies some how.

maverick514 · 03-17-2003, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by urseus

How considerate of you.

Let us hope that all nations in future will surrender their homelands to superpowers of the world. Its just so simple.

do you want to be in the way of a precision guided hellfire missile? I mean, it is up to you....

Quote:

Bush planned this war from the first day of his administration. 9/11 had nothing to do with it, it just gave him a great rationale. Read the papers today and find out the truth, he wanted Saddam killed when he took office and was planning it out already. This war was inevitable because Bush is clearly a war monger. He has to make up for his deficiencies some how.

this is a useless accusation, of course he didn't like Saddam, but who did? He could never cocieve, when he came into power, that a war like that would ever erupt! Well, it's useless to argue about it now, it'll start within the week...

Soyuz · 03-17-2003, 04:24 AM

HEHHE A NEW GAME. Battlefield1942: BushWAR

maverick514 · 03-17-2003, 04:26 AM

it's called Desert Combat

Cpl. Reynolds · 03-17-2003, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick514

He could never cocieve, when he came into power, that a war like that would ever erupt! Well, it's useless to argue about it now, it'll start within the week...

Mav, he PLANNED this war from the start of his term, according to people who were part of his meetings, including conservatives. So please don't suggest he had no idea it would erupt, you can't plan a war and then act surprised about it. That's like saying if I scratch an itch I then have no idea where the red marks from my fingernails came from.

It's never useless to argue or debate the points. Nothing ever changes if you give up talking, even when the cause you are debating has come and gone. There's always a next time, so why not keep talking now before it arrives?

WWD OLW · 03-17-2003, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick514

Yea, they will be a war!

I would also like to, no matter if your for the war or against, to pray for all the soldiers who are fighting for freedom, there are many guys, many younger than the guys in here, that are risking thri lives for the good of the American Nation. My brother is a pilot in the Persian Gulf, and I pray for him constatly. Please, think of them before you start bashing America

And for the Iraqi soldiers, I hope you have read the pamflets.. defect and live another day, because if you don't, your demise is coming... there is no reason for thier deaths, just Saddam and his high level thugs...

you seem excited about war for someone who's brother is going to fight. i would pray for the soldiers if they were fighting for freedom actually i wouldn't cos im not christian. but a war is not neccersary for anyone except bush and his greedy oil company friends.

Sarge · 03-17-2003, 08:02 AM

Well Gents and ladies, which I'm sure there are plenty of, this WAR will seem to happen whether ANY of us complain, whine, post, or in any other way bash each other or flame any topic dicussed on the matter.

The point is, whether we like it or not or agree with what is happening it will happen it seems. There are many reasons for anything. Neither people know any side to any story fully. You might think this or that, but the truth is, do you really know?? Alot of us out there seem to be armchair authors of disdain and reprimands, but for the most part I really don't see most of anybody here or the countries represented bothering with anything.

All this talk on who is right or who isn't won't solve a dime of of burnt problems with the tea maker. You could ask yourself what is right, is it the naysayers who seem to think all things that happen are conspiracies with every action done in the world as something with an ulterior motive. I highly doubt it.

Either way, get used to the fact that armchair cow-women sure talk alot of guff, but guess what. Try going anywhere and getting your head shot at, then you might come to the realization that country bashing has been going on for millennia.

We all don't have to agree, shit happens, whether we like it or not. Then we die and thats it. Get over it and cry to your god of choice.

WWD OLW · 03-17-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick514

Quote:

Originally Posted by urseus

How considerate of you.

Let us hope that all nations in future will surrender their homelands to superpowers of the world. Its just so simple.

do you want to be in the way of a precision guided hellfire missile? I mean, it is up to you....

Quote:

Bush planned this war from the first day of his administration. 9/11 had nothing to do with it, it just gave him a great rationale. Read the papers today and find out the truth, he wanted Saddam killed when he took office and was planning it out already. This war was inevitable because Bush is clearly a war monger. He has to make up for his deficiencies some how.

this is a useless accusation, of course he didn't like Saddam, but who did? He could never cocieve, when he came into power, that a war like that would ever erupt! Well, it's useless to argue about it now, it'll start within the week...

fucking dickhead its attitudes like that which get you into trouble with the terrorists. sometimes i wonder if america is really as bad as wat people say but when i hear stuff like this i know that america is worse than wat people say you just think that american lives are more important than anyone elses life. the real reason's behind the war are to please the oil and gun companies of the US its not some shit about fighting for freedom.

Sarge · 03-17-2003, 08:12 AM

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fucking dickhead

Wow. with attitudes like ours. What about yours.??? Oh wait you are justified with your attitude right?

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american lives are more important than anyone elses life

You read that in your Quasi-praise Allah history Book.

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please the oil and gun companies

Again must be The big book of Economics of America that you read in your school daily. At least post dribble that is worth anything rather than ramblings from the Anti-American bible.

WWD OLW · 03-17-2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge

Well Gents and ladies, which I'm sure there are plenty of, this WAR will seem to happen whether ANY of us complain, whine, post, or in any other way bash each other or flame any topic dicussed on the matter.

The point is, whether we like it or not or agree with what is happening it will happen it seems. There are many reasons for anything. Neither people know any side to any story fully. You might think this or that, but the truth is, do you really know?? Alot of us out there seem to be armchair authors of disdain and reprimands, but for the most part I really don't see most of anybody here or the countries represented bothering with anything.

All this talk on who is right or who isn't won't solve a dime of of burnt problems with the tea maker. You could ask yourself what is right, is it the naysayers who seem to think all things that happen are conspiracies with every action done in the world as something with an ulterior motive. I highly doubt it.

Either way, get used to the fact that armchair cow-women sure talk alot of guff, but guess what. Try going anywhere and getting your head shot at, then you might come to the realization that country bashing has been going on for millennia.

We all don't have to agree, shit happens, whether we like it or not. Then we die and thats it. Get over it and cry to your god of choice.

well i want to do something about stopping the war but i cant do shit about wats going to happen so discussing it with some US fucktards is the best is can do okay. you say i dont know the full story, well probably not but wat i do know is that lots of people are going to die.

maverick514 · 03-17-2003, 02:54 PM

WWD OLD, it is stupid to argue with you becasue you do not present ANY valid points, If i were to say something, you just call me a "fucking dickhead"

Reynolds, on the other hand, actually has some truth in his words..
SO, on his planning the war before, I actually haven't heard this, but I want to look into it... COuld you get me a news link for it, because, as much as I am a republican, I like to get the full story.

And for the news... "Weapons Inspectors are advised to pull out within 24 hours" heard it on a Fox News Alert...

Cpl. Reynolds · 03-17-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick514

WWD OLD, it is stupid to argue with you becasue you do not present ANY valid points, If i were to say something, you just call me a "fucking dickhead"

But you ARE, Mav. ;-) I mean, you have a woman, right? So you use that dick head to fuck with, right? There you go, you fucking dickhead *grin*.

Here's the link to the news article I read yesterday. I'm not sure how much national play it got, if any, but it was front cover in the Baltimore Sun yesterday morning.

http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationwo... %2Dheadlines

I think the one thing we can agree on is that, given Bush's ideology and Hussein's intransigence, war with Iraq has been inevitable from day one of his administration.

maverick514 · 03-17-2003, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpl. Reynolds

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick514

WWD OLD, it is stupid to argue with you becasue you do not present ANY valid points, If i were to say something, you just call me a "fucking dickhead"

But you ARE, Mav. ;-) I mean, you have a woman, right? So you use that dick head to fuck with, right? There you go, you fucking dickhead *grin*.

Here's the link to the news article I read yesterday. I'm not sure how much national play it got, if any, but it was front cover in the Baltimore Sun yesterday morning.

http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationwo... %2Dheadlines

I think the one thing we can agree on is that, given Bush's ideology and Hussein's intransigence, war with Iraq has been inevitable from day one of his administration.

well, if you look it like that reynolds, then I am a fucking dick-head, haha

thanks for the link (WWD, thats how you do it), I guess you can say that he was always after Saddam, but you also have to agree, like in the new article, that there will never be Isaeli-Palestinan peace without Saddam gone, which I could see as a valid argument

03-16-2003, 09:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Officer Tay Chief Warrant Officer First Class Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,030	Bush Gives Until Monday For Iraq To Disarm LAJES AIRBASE, Azores (March 16) - On the brink of war with Iraq, President Bush said at a crisis summit that Monday would be the last day for diplomatic efforts to peacefully disarm Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. "We concluded that tomorrow is a moment of truth for the world," Bush told a news conference on Sunday in the Azores joined by the leaders of Britain, Spain and Portugal. "Tomorrow's the day that we will determine whether or not diplomacy can work," Bush said. He confirmed that Monday would be the last day a U.S.-backed resolution to authorise war could be voted on at the U.N. Security Council. Once diplomacy was exhausted, U.S. officials said, Washington would move to a war footing and Bush would address the United States as early as Monday, issuing a final ultimatum to Saddam and giving aid workers and others time to leave Iraq. The U.S.-backed resolution, which faces a French veto even if the needed nine votes to pass it could be found, would demand that Saddam eliminate alleged weapons of mass destruction programs by Monday. A Spanish source briefing reporters on Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's plane said Spain was not confident the votes were there. Aznar and British Prime Minister Tony Blair said one final round of diplomatic contacts would be made in a last-ditch effort to win agreement on an ultimatum for Saddam that would authorise war. Shortly after the summit, Saddam displayed fresh defiance, saying Iraq would fight "anywhere in the world" if the United States invaded. Looks like we are in for another war...

03-16-2003, 10:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
urseus Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 6,073	Sunday Monday HAPPY DAYS Tuesday Wednesday BOMBING DAYS i love how wars are on schedual nowadays. Like having a caesareian so you can fit in a business lunchion afterwoods. __________________

03-17-2003, 02:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
maverick514 Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: People's Republic of MA Posts: 6,061	Yea, they will be a war! I would also like to, no matter if your for the war or against, to pray for all the soldiers who are fighting for freedom, there are many guys, many younger than the guys in here, that are risking thri lives for the good of the American Nation. My brother is a pilot in the Persian Gulf, and I pray for him constatly. Please, think of them before you start bashing America And for the Iraqi soldiers, I hope you have read the pamflets.. defect and live another day, because if you don't, your demise is coming... there is no reason for thier deaths, just Saddam and his high level thugs... __________________

03-17-2003, 02:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
urseus Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 6,073	So we pray for whitey, but not the heathen godless scum is that what your saying? __________________

03-17-2003, 03:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
maverick514 Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: People's Republic of MA Posts: 6,061	So, what is this war doing? Natural Resources - Today Bush and Blair both said that the natural resources would be given to the poeple of Iraq, so we cant take it now... Turn away the attention - well, the ecomony isnt great, but people are still doing well. YOung just married couple pay thousands of dollars for a 1 - wekk vacation, everyone still has the money to crows stores during the weekends... there is no food crisis, people still have money, so it's not that To elimnate threats to your power - since its not those to, it has to be this one? I think your reasoning is wrong... maybe to the world? Saddam cant elimnate the power of the US, but he can kill millions upon millions by selling his weapons to terrorists.. Also, I "prayed" that the Iraqi people defect, so they don't have to die __________________

03-17-2003, 02:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
The Selecter Private Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 37	Well, yeah thats what poeple do. The other side is always the bad guys. I hope everyone knows this war has nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction. If it was, we would have done something when he used poison gas on the kurds and killed 100,000 of them. Wars ( for the attackers purposes ) are only fought for 3 reasons : to gain control of valuable natural resources they have , to eliminate threats to your power, and to turn attention away from other areas. Anyone that actually believes that this is about weapons of mass destruction has no ability to reason motives and causes of someone elses actions. A high diet of TV and a lack of reading books about important things and especially history tends to cloud ones mind. If you know history and the past, you can know the future as well, for mans basic drives have not changed in thousands of years, only his methods.

03-17-2003, 03:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
urseus Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 6,073	How considerate of you. Let us hope that all nations in future will surrender their homelands to superpowers of the world. Its just so simple. __________________

03-17-2003, 03:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cpl. Reynolds First Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hiding in a foxhole, protecting my hiney. Posts: 1,923	Bush planned this war from the first day of his administration. 9/11 had nothing to do with it, it just gave him a great rationale. Read the papers today and find out the truth, he wanted Saddam killed when he took office and was planning it out already. This war was inevitable because Bush is clearly a war monger. He has to make up for his deficiencies some how. __________________ http://www.planetbattlefield.com/longestday

03-17-2003, 04:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
Soyuz Second Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,472	HEHHE A NEW GAME. Battlefield1942: BushWAR

03-17-2003, 04:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
maverick514 Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: People's Republic of MA Posts: 6,061	it's called Desert Combat __________________

03-17-2003, 08:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
Sarge Master Warrant Officer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Back in GA, US fooking A Posts: 1,204	Well Gents and ladies, which I'm sure there are plenty of, this WAR will seem to happen whether ANY of us complain, whine, post, or in any other way bash each other or flame any topic dicussed on the matter. The point is, whether we like it or not or agree with what is happening it will happen it seems. There are many reasons for anything. Neither people know any side to any story fully. You might think this or that, but the truth is, do you really know?? Alot of us out there seem to be armchair authors of disdain and reprimands, but for the most part I really don't see most of anybody here or the countries represented bothering with anything. All this talk on who is right or who isn't won't solve a dime of of burnt problems with the tea maker. You could ask yourself what is right, is it the naysayers who seem to think all things that happen are conspiracies with every action done in the world as something with an ulterior motive. I highly doubt it. Either way, get used to the fact that armchair cow-women sure talk alot of guff, but guess what. Try going anywhere and getting your head shot at, then you might come to the realization that country bashing has been going on for millennia. We all don't have to agree, shit happens, whether we like it or not. Then we die and thats it. Get over it and cry to your god of choice.

03-17-2003, 02:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
maverick514 Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: People's Republic of MA Posts: 6,061	WWD OLD, it is stupid to argue with you becasue you do not present ANY valid points, If i were to say something, you just call me a "fucking dickhead" Reynolds, on the other hand, actually has some truth in his words.. SO, on his planning the war before, I actually haven't heard this, but I want to look into it... COuld you get me a news link for it, because, as much as I am a republican, I like to get the full story. And for the news... "Weapons Inspectors are advised to pull out within 24 hours" heard it on a Fox News Alert... __________________