Tips for the Helophobic, or, how to fly the Apache - Page 3

Crowe · 06-11-2003, 12:53 AM

The best way to learn how to fly the chopper is just start a local game and crash till you learn how to avoid it. Just avoid crashing as opposed to worrying about how to attack.

Raijin Z · 06-20-2003, 03:04 AM

How to dodge in a chopper: Press E, wait a moment, then press 9. Run to the nearest jet and resume your attack runs without fear of becoming a sitting duck with a huge blind spot.

KNYTE · 06-20-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raijin Z

How to dodge in a chopper: Press E, wait a moment, then press 9. Run to the nearest jet and resume your attack runs without fear of becoming a sitting duck with a huge blind spot.

Thats a very...creative...method of dodging you have there. I have a question however, what do you do if youre playing on El Alamein/Bocage Day 2?

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The best way to learn how to fly the chopper is just start a local game and crash till you learn how to avoid it. Just avoid crashing as opposed to worrying about how to attack.

Thats exactly how I learned.

First, I started out with just trying to move around without crashing.
Then, I flew to each of the control points on the map.
From there, I ran attack runs on stationary targets.
Once I felt like I was ok doing that, I joined an online game and watched how the other pilots worked and was surprised by how much I actually learned from it.

Crowe · 06-20-2003, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KNYTE

First, I started out with just trying to move around without crashing.
Then, I flew to each of the control points on the map.
From there, I ran attack runs on stationary targets.
Once I felt like I was ok doing that, I joined an online game and watched how the other pilots worked and was surprised by how much I actually learned from it.

Awesome. I just get sick of the guys who call everyone into a BH after tking a fellow trying to fly, then crash it into a tree or a red wheel barrow and say: "I'm still learning."

It's like: "Thanks for the confession fuck up, somehow i figured that out."

KNYTE · 06-20-2003, 09:17 PM

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Awesome. I just get sick of the guys who call everyone into a BH after tking a fellow trying to fly, then crash it into a tree or a red wheel barrow and say: "I'm still learning."

It's like: "Thanks for the confession fuck up, somehow i figured that out."

I didn't say it, but I whole-heartedly agree with it.

HARDDRIVE2003 · 07-03-2003, 03:11 AM

THANKS FOR THE TIPS

CrutchyDog · 07-04-2003, 09:20 AM

Learn offline

Man, you think you can't fly the chopper with the keyboard? All hail king cordless

Rudder left- Delete
Rudder right- End
Up- Uparrow
Down- Downarrow
Left- Leftarrow
Right- Rightarrow
Fire 1- Mouse1
Fire 2- Mouse2

And you think YOUR controls are weird....................

UpInHeeaa · 07-18-2003, 05:51 AM

I've finally mastered flying the chopper with a keyboard and mouse. This forum and many others suggest that you need a joystick but I got away with using my mouse with the roller ball and am now flying missions with almost perfect control. I suggest a mouse with a rollerball because I was flying with a normal mouse and it wasn't smooth. Also, using only the keyboard was not easy...possible, but not easy.

I practiced with the Bagdad Airport mod - download it here...
(DC) Baghdad International Airport v1.0 from Espklan.com

**Edit** You could also play Bocage if you don't feel like dealing with a new map.

After you've installed the map, go to Desert Combat multiplayer (Local) and select the "Team Death Match" mode. Then the map will appear in the list. Because you're not gaming with anyone else, no enemies spawn. PERFECT!!!

Within the Bagdad Airport map go to the northerly base, secure the post by climbing all the ladders and watch the flag turn allied. Then the choppers will appear in the northwest corner of the airport. You can get an Apache at the first spawn point but there are hills all around and you need the flat airport to get used to controlling the rudder.

Also, the A and F keys control the rudder and the W key controls the amount of throttle / collective. To make it easier to view your piloting, the moment you get in the chopper press the F10 key (also good for flying planes).

As Morat suggested at the beginning of this Topic, the key to flying is using almost the same amount of reverse action as you apply to any action. ie, if you press A to spin, immediately tap D to counter the spin. Also, only tap the W key for throttle as it's much easier to control. The Forums also suggest that you stay very low to the ground as to not get shot once you're in action.

Flying the choppers is bad ass. Once you're skilled, fly over to the "uncapturable" Iraqi base within the Bagdad Airport map and fly one of their Hind Attack Helicopters...the smoothest flying of all the choppers I've seen in the game thus far.

Good luck and I'll see you on the battlefield.

...

GhoZtcom · 07-26-2003, 11:42 PM

Gotta try some of this... Can't hit anything with the damned thing

Loctnloded · 07-31-2003, 01:55 AM

I'm better off being a gunner in a heli than a pilot.
Piloting the thing in my case is no better than trying to balance a football on a ball-point pen.
F-4 Phantoms during vertical takeoffs are more forgivable anyway. So all I have to say is that if you want to master the chopper that badly, maybe you should try mastering the F-4 strictly in hover mode first.

Gort · 07-31-2003, 08:29 PM

For a topic that was moved months ago... it's still here... WTF? Wasn't this moved to the DC forums? So why is it still here in the BF42 discussion forum? (All rhetorical questions)

BoiseXJ · 08-12-2003, 05:27 AM

The phantom, if I'm not mistaken, was not a vertical takeoff jet. You're thinking of the harrier.

hurleyskate284 · 08-13-2003, 04:13 AM

I love flying the helicopter with Mouse and Keyboard, It's really easy once you get enough practice...But after you use the Heli for a while, the Fighters are impossible..All I use now is Heli's because I try to fly a jet and hover..I end up dying...=/

Tips for landing a heli

Never land sideways..Always land straight. You do NOT need to land vertical.

If your heli starts to tip over when you land, get out...It helps me all the time...The heli is more unstable with you in it, so when I land I get out and it flattens right out.

I hope these help you all

Monkeyfeng · 08-27-2003, 01:47 PM

still hard for me to fly a helo. probably my connection sucks. lol

air_BORNE · 09-07-2003, 05:27 PM

I don't even bother online with dialup. Which missiles are which in the choppers? And are any of them guided or homing?

Morat · 09-07-2003, 07:38 PM

Even though this was moved, it still shows up in the original forum when someone posts. IMO that needs fixing.

As for practice the offline server is the way to go, I've been in so many servers where you see some tard take-off and immediately go upside-down into a hangar roof then respawn and get in the next helo and shout "jump in". Yerr thanks, I think I'll walk.

The thing I practiced most offline was popping up. Try flying along the canyon in Gazala and hovering below that centre flag, then pop up so you're level with the buildings and you can bring your rockets to bear on the flag. People don't like that sort of stuff

Death From Above · 09-08-2003, 08:13 PM

I think I've got the hang of this now... wait, no... shit shit shit, MAYDAY MADAY, AHHHHHHHHHHH BOOM!!

Death From Above is no more.

ShockV1.89 · 09-17-2003, 03:41 PM

I've gotten good at recovering from falling out of control, so much that I use it when jets attack me. When I hear or see them coming, I just put the chopper on its side, and I'll fall out of the sky at high speed to the right or left. Hopefully I'm not too close to the ground, though.

Doing barrel rolls over the enemy base is always fun as well.

Phrenzy · 10-08-2003, 07:49 PM

I still fly with a mouse and keyboard, as I have since the game came out. however, I must say that I suck at hovering with the helicopter using it... Its too much of a game rather than a science, which makes it hard.

I overcompensate for the weight of the hind and the black hawk sometimes, which are much more difficult than the apache to remain airborn when performing tight turns that cause the aircraft to roll a bit. I end up sometimes smacking into the ground at a slight downward angle, not quite making it up again.

But hey, I can't be that great yet, I only started recently

Mikey the cookie eater · 01-11-2004, 06:50 PM

ok let me see. im new to this forum and a bit new to DC but i can sort of get a chopper up and forwards but when it comes to stopping or turning suddenly, i just lose control and start rolling and no matter what i do i keep falling like nuts. hmm maybe i should get my joystick out but i haven't got space for the damn thing!! help!!

06-11-2003, 12:53 AM	#41 (permalink)
Crowe Sergeant First Class Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: [BFN] Posts: 451	The best way to learn how to fly the chopper is just start a local game and crash till you learn how to avoid it. Just avoid crashing as opposed to worrying about how to attack. __________________ Remember, hiding is only one step away from death.

07-04-2003, 09:20 AM	#47 (permalink)
CrutchyDog Private Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WHO TOOK ALL THE BEER OUT OF THE FRIEEDGE!??!111oneeeleven!1 Posts: 22	Ach! Learn offline Man, you think you can't fly the chopper with the keyboard? All hail king cordless Rudder left- Delete Rudder right- End Up- Uparrow Down- Downarrow Left- Leftarrow Right- Rightarrow Fire 1- Mouse1 Fire 2- Mouse2 And you think YOUR controls are weird.................... __________________ Rumours say that in DC 0.9, iraqi team has armed don keys with m249 guns and rpg gun its liek eee ore chch boom har har har ow

07-18-2003, 05:51 AM	#48 (permalink)
UpInHeeaa Private Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	Flying the Helicopter with a keyboard or roller ball mouse I've finally mastered flying the chopper with a keyboard and mouse. This forum and many others suggest that you need a joystick but I got away with using my mouse with the roller ball and am now flying missions with almost perfect control. I suggest a mouse with a rollerball because I was flying with a normal mouse and it wasn't smooth. Also, using only the keyboard was not easy...possible, but not easy. I practiced with the Bagdad Airport mod - download it here... (DC) Baghdad International Airport v1.0 from Espklan.com Edit You could also play Bocage if you don't feel like dealing with a new map. After you've installed the map, go to Desert Combat multiplayer (Local) and select the "Team Death Match" mode. Then the map will appear in the list. Because you're not gaming with anyone else, no enemies spawn. PERFECT!!! Within the Bagdad Airport map go to the northerly base, secure the post by climbing all the ladders and watch the flag turn allied. Then the choppers will appear in the northwest corner of the airport. You can get an Apache at the first spawn point but there are hills all around and you need the flat airport to get used to controlling the rudder. Also, the A and F keys control the rudder and the W key controls the amount of throttle / collective. To make it easier to view your piloting, the moment you get in the chopper press the F10 key (also good for flying planes). As Morat suggested at the beginning of this Topic, the key to flying is using almost the same amount of reverse action as you apply to any action. ie, if you press A to spin, immediately tap D to counter the spin. Also, only tap the W key for throttle as it's much easier to control. The Forums also suggest that you stay very low to the ground as to not get shot once you're in action. Flying the choppers is bad ass. Once you're skilled, fly over to the "uncapturable" Iraqi base within the Bagdad Airport map and fly one of their Hind Attack Helicopters...the smoothest flying of all the choppers I've seen in the game thus far. Good luck and I'll see you on the battlefield. ...

07-26-2003, 11:42 PM	#49 (permalink)
GhoZtcom Private Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2	Gotta try some of this... Can't hit anything with the damned thing __________________ Tyler Durden says: Use soap

07-31-2003, 01:55 AM	#50 (permalink)
Loctnloded Private Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5	I'm better off being a gunner in a heli than a pilot. Piloting the thing in my case is no better than trying to balance a football on a ball-point pen. F-4 Phantoms during vertical takeoffs are more forgivable anyway. So all I have to say is that if you want to master the chopper that badly, maybe you should try mastering the F-4 strictly in hover mode first. __________________ [img][/img]

06-20-2003, 03:04 AM	#42 (permalink)
Raijin Z Sergeant Major Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Northeast USA Posts: 609	How to dodge in a chopper: Press E, wait a moment, then press 9. Run to the nearest jet and resume your attack runs without fear of becoming a sitting duck with a huge blind spot.

07-03-2003, 03:11 AM	#46 (permalink)
HARDDRIVE2003 Private Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 28	THANKS FOR THE TIPS

07-31-2003, 08:29 PM	#51 (permalink)
Gort Warrant Officer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southern BC, Canada Posts: 825	For a topic that was moved months ago... it's still here... WTF? Wasn't this moved to the DC forums? So why is it still here in the BF42 discussion forum? (All rhetorical questions) __________________ 8)´

08-12-2003, 05:27 AM	#52 (permalink)
BoiseXJ Private Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 13	F4??? The phantom, if I'm not mistaken, was not a vertical takeoff jet. You're thinking of the harrier.

08-13-2003, 04:13 AM	#53 (permalink)
hurleyskate284 Private Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Saratoga, NY Posts: 15	I love flying the helicopter with Mouse and Keyboard, It's really easy once you get enough practice...But after you use the Heli for a while, the Fighters are impossible..All I use now is Heli's because I try to fly a jet and hover..I end up dying...=/ Tips for landing a heli Never land sideways..Always land straight. You do NOT need to land vertical. If your heli starts to tip over when you land, get out...It helps me all the time...The heli is more unstable with you in it, so when I land I get out and it flattens right out. I hope these help you all

08-27-2003, 01:47 PM	#54 (permalink)
Monkeyfeng Captain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Taiwan, can you find it on the map? Posts: 2,785	still hard for me to fly a helo. probably my connection sucks. lol

09-07-2003, 05:27 PM	#55 (permalink)
air_BORNE Private Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 72	I don't even bother online with dialup. Which missiles are which in the choppers? And are any of them guided or homing? __________________

09-07-2003, 07:38 PM	#56 (permalink)
Morat Master Warrant Officer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Diving towards your pos with my finger on the bomb release... Posts: 1,188	Even though this was moved, it still shows up in the original forum when someone posts. IMO that needs fixing. As for practice the offline server is the way to go, I've been in so many servers where you see some tard take-off and immediately go upside-down into a hangar roof then respawn and get in the next helo and shout "jump in". Yerr thanks, I think I'll walk. The thing I practiced most offline was popping up. Try flying along the canyon in Gazala and hovering below that centre flag, then pop up so you're level with the buildings and you can bring your rockets to bear on the flag. People don't like that sort of stuff __________________ Desktop wallpapers by Morat at caedes

09-08-2003, 08:13 PM	#57 (permalink)
Death From Above Private Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bystander in the background Posts: 64	Choppers I think I've got the hang of this now... wait, no... shit shit shit, MAYDAY MADAY, AHHHHHHHHHHH BOOM!! Death From Above is no more. __________________ Internet Connection - $20 Battlefield 1942 - $40 Getting TKed for the 20th time in a row by some idiot camping planes on the runway - PRICELESS There\'s some things money can\'t buy, for everything else there\'s BasterdCard. Official credit card of n00bs everywhere.

09-17-2003, 03:41 PM	#58 (permalink)
ShockV1.89 Private Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 61	I've gotten good at recovering from falling out of control, so much that I use it when jets attack me. When I hear or see them coming, I just put the chopper on its side, and I'll fall out of the sky at high speed to the right or left. Hopefully I'm not too close to the ground, though. Doing barrel rolls over the enemy base is always fun as well.

10-08-2003, 07:49 PM	#59 (permalink)
Phrenzy Second Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Transporting your ass around the battlefield. Posts: 1,447	I still fly with a mouse and keyboard, as I have since the game came out. however, I must say that I suck at hovering with the helicopter using it... Its too much of a game rather than a science, which makes it hard. I overcompensate for the weight of the hind and the black hawk sometimes, which are much more difficult than the apache to remain airborn when performing tight turns that cause the aircraft to roll a bit. I end up sometimes smacking into the ground at a slight downward angle, not quite making it up again. But hey, I can't be that great yet, I only started recently __________________ He\'s Eating the world! There\'s an E there, see?

01-11-2004, 06:50 PM	#60 (permalink)
Mikey the cookie eater Private Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 41	ok let me see. im new to this forum and a bit new to DC but i can sort of get a chopper up and forwards but when it comes to stopping or turning suddenly, i just lose control and start rolling and no matter what i do i keep falling like nuts. hmm maybe i should get my joystick out but i haven't got space for the damn thing!! help!!