What are your Video settings?

NavalLord · 03-22-2004, 10:07 PM

whats everyones video settings and how does it look?
i have all mine set to the higest possible (i think) but im not getting the shiny tanks and wheels that are in the BFV screenshots

unless there is something that is not turned up all the way

AA and AF are set to application controlled, whatever that means

Guru Imakuni · 03-22-2004, 11:07 PM

I'm running with ATI so I have either low or medium with shadows. It does run pretty good though, textures on crates and the like look like Wolfenstein 3D though.

Mandingo · 03-23-2004, 01:44 AM

Speaking of the ATI stuff, Are they going to fix this stuff in the next patch or what? i'm on a 9600 and I have to run it at 800x600 at medium to play it reasonably well.

carramrod01 · 03-23-2004, 02:13 AM

i think so. I believe the only reason BF:V is running like crap for ATI cards is because we all know EA had a deal with nVidia, and since its also obvious BF:V was rushed, Im guessing they optimized for nVidia cards first.

I mean just think about it...When they are showing off this game they are doing it on nVidia cards because of their partnership. So of course they optimize for nVidia's cards first and ATI takes a backseat, why waste time when they have so little of it to begin with optimizing for a card manufacturer who isn't even paying them?

Im sure they will get around to it just because of the player demand, but as for why we don't have it running good now, I think its the above reason.

BTW im 800x600x32, graphics quality on high all others on medium, lightmaps and shadows on. Just enough to run smooth on my 9800 np (although im sure my cpu (xp 1600+)) is holding me back more.

edit: I turned off lightmaps and shadows and now i get like 100+ fps. I cranked up resolution to 1024x768 and textures detail up to highest left others at medium and still get 70 constant fps so that seems to work best. I could prob put it at 1280x1024 and keep 50+ but im happy at 1024x768 for now, looks crazily better.

I'd still like to see them fix shadows and lightmaps though, these are the DX9 paths (along with others) they basically ignored for ATI

420 · 03-23-2004, 02:18 AM

1280 resolution
4x AA
No AF
Med Settings ingame
No shadows

60fps on ati 9800pro

When we get our ati optimizations, its gonna rock.

Mephisto · 03-23-2004, 02:26 AM

med/high settings, 0AA/0AF,800*600, 60-80 FPS, ti4200@272/544

Monkeyfeng · 03-23-2004, 09:48 AM

I think ati is giving a payback for nvidia when half-life 2 comes out. i bet it will seriously kick some nvidia ass. anyway i hate to see game company having deals to the graphic chip companies. its unfair for the gamers. i mean what would happen in the future? u have to have this company's card in order to run the game. then there would be chaos. i mean they have to stop this stradegy.

carramrod01 · 03-23-2004, 02:03 PM

I doubt HL2 will have this problem though because they get to take pretty much all the time they want with it (as they've already proved).

Its just that BF:V had this deadline that was much too soon for them and they never had the chance to optimize for ATI. They will get to it, it's just a shame they couldn't do it earlier.

Guru Imakuni · 03-23-2004, 07:23 PM

I don't think deals mean much. It's just who has their logo on the box and who gets optimized first. Both manufacturers should run really good games with their top end cards.

yetix · 03-23-2004, 07:26 PM

1900x1220@32bit 75hz refresh on Sony Trinitron 24" 16x10aspect

messed with AA/Af, no real difference...plays fine, could look better on some maps. waiting on optimization/ATi work for my ATi 9700 Pro.

carramrod01 · 03-23-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Imakuni

I don't think deals mean much. It's just who has their logo on the box and who gets optimized first. Both manufacturers should run really good games with their top end cards.

Thats what I've been saying if you care to actually read it. I said nVidia has been optimized for first because of their DEAL with EA, and since BF:V has been rushed they haven't had time to fully optimize for ATI. Thus, ATI users are screwed over because of EA's deal with nVidia. Apart from that I know DICE is going to be on top of optimizations for ATI but they just didn't have time to do it before its official release (but of course they did with nVidia despite the fact that NV chips have a more complex, harder to code for architecture).

grim reaper · 03-23-2004, 07:33 PM

well i got a 9800 pro and i can run 1600 by 1200 full verything else i get about 70fps solid.

carramrod01 · 03-23-2004, 07:38 PM

I've been playing at 1024x768 and when I play the L's are totally missing from the chat. Say someone says "lol" all I see is " o ". I had this problem with 4.3 and I went back to 4.2 on advice saying it fixed problems in general with it and it did.

Aside from that "minor" issue. Most people with ATI cards do prefer to play with all the eye candy since they handle it way better than nVidia cards. If you play with AA or AF you will once again run into problems with BF:V. Thats really a shame, almost all games now support it but BF:V has a lot of issues if you enable those.

Guru Imakuni · 03-23-2004, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carramrod01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Imakuni

I don't think deals mean much. It's just who has their logo on the box and who gets optimized first. Both manufacturers should run really good games with their top end cards.

Thats what I've been saying if you care to actually read it. I said nVidia has been optimized for first because of their DEAL with EA, and since BF:V has been rushed they haven't had time to fully optimize for ATI. Thus, ATI users are screwed over because of EA's deal with nVidia. Apart from that I know DICE is going to be on top of optimizations for ATI but they just didn't have time to do it before its official release (but of course they did with nVidia despite the fact that NV chips have a more complex, harder to code for architecture).

I read it but just didn't care.

Can't I say what I want anyway?

carramrod01 · 03-23-2004, 09:49 PM

Well when you mention something I brought up in the first place I'm going to comment on it, especially since your wrong.

"I don't think deals mean much." Wow seriously? Because big companies like that love to form partnerships with each other and if you don't think that means much then your probably on something...

on a related note, can you tell me what and where I can get some of what youre smoking?

Guru Imakuni · 03-23-2004, 11:36 PM

It's my opinion, ok? When I said deals don't mean much I meant that they don't really effect the consumer in most circumstances except for rushed games. IE, deals won't matter with Half-Life 2, Doom 3, etc.

KNYTE · 03-23-2004, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Imakuni

deals won't matter with Half-Life 2, Doom 3, etc.

*cough

Guru Imakuni · 03-24-2004, 03:39 AM

That's just a publicity stunt. You really think Valve is just going to optimize Half-Life 2 just for ATI cards? If they do, over half the market will be getting crappy graphics.

In BFV's case, Nvidia came first and because the game was rushed ATI had to temporarily get left behind.

These deals are just who gets optimizations first and their name on the box. That's all.

Rexxie · 03-24-2004, 04:10 PM

You are missing the point. It will surely look good on all cards, but you may get better performance with a radeon. At least at the start, depends on how much they have optimized it before the release.

Anyway, that's really off topic.

I'm running on medium and no shadows, 1024x768, no AA, no AF, low sound quality (supposedly it runs better). Then again, I just started playing it

Can't wait for the patch on friday, that's gonna fix alot of problems for me and other ATI users

English · 03-24-2004, 09:49 PM

What should happen is that Nvidia and Radeon should make their cards compatible with Direct3D and OpenGL, so they run smoothly with the latest versions.

Programmers then decide which graphics standard they want to use and code for that.

It all works fine in theory !

However they have to test the game on some card...

Its strange how the different cards are supposed to support the same standards but work differently. I wouldnt mind if it was hardware related but it seems to be mainly drivers.

03-22-2004, 10:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
NavalLord Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,101	What are your Video settings? whats everyones video settings and how does it look? i have all mine set to the higest possible (i think) but im not getting the shiny tanks and wheels that are in the BFV screenshots unless there is something that is not turned up all the way AA and AF are set to application controlled, whatever that means __________________

03-22-2004, 11:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	I'm running with ATI so I have either low or medium with shadows. It does run pretty good though, textures on crates and the like look like Wolfenstein 3D though. __________________

03-23-2004, 01:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mandingo Command Sergeant Major Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 688	Speaking of the ATI stuff, Are they going to fix this stuff in the next patch or what? i'm on a 9600 and I have to run it at 800x600 at medium to play it reasonably well. __________________

03-23-2004, 02:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
carramrod01 First Sergeant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: a little to the left Posts: 573	i think so. I believe the only reason BF:V is running like crap for ATI cards is because we all know EA had a deal with nVidia, and since its also obvious BF:V was rushed, Im guessing they optimized for nVidia cards first. I mean just think about it...When they are showing off this game they are doing it on nVidia cards because of their partnership. So of course they optimize for nVidia's cards first and ATI takes a backseat, why waste time when they have so little of it to begin with optimizing for a card manufacturer who isn't even paying them? Im sure they will get around to it just because of the player demand, but as for why we don't have it running good now, I think its the above reason. BTW im 800x600x32, graphics quality on high all others on medium, lightmaps and shadows on. Just enough to run smooth on my 9800 np (although im sure my cpu (xp 1600+)) is holding me back more. edit: I turned off lightmaps and shadows and now i get like 100+ fps. I cranked up resolution to 1024x768 and textures detail up to highest left others at medium and still get 70 constant fps so that seems to work best. I could prob put it at 1280x1024 and keep 50+ but im happy at 1024x768 for now, looks crazily better. I'd still like to see them fix shadows and lightmaps though, these are the DX9 paths (along with others) they basically ignored for ATI __________________ #12279 by lucifersam (User) at 2004-02-21 01:56:14 GMT how do i watch this?...how do i \"unrare\" files?

03-23-2004, 02:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,605	1280 resolution 4x AA No AF Med Settings ingame No shadows 60fps on ati 9800pro When we get our ati optimizations, its gonna rock. __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

03-23-2004, 02:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mephisto Captain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,670	med/high settings, 0AA/0AF,800600, 60-80 FPS, ti4200@272/544 __________________ Mephisto is among the most powerful of the universe's known demonic forces* - www.googlism.com

03-23-2004, 09:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
Monkeyfeng Captain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Taiwan, can you find it on the map? Posts: 2,785	I think ati is giving a payback for nvidia when half-life 2 comes out. i bet it will seriously kick some nvidia ass. anyway i hate to see game company having deals to the graphic chip companies. its unfair for the gamers. i mean what would happen in the future? u have to have this company's card in order to run the game. then there would be chaos. i mean they have to stop this stradegy. __________________

03-23-2004, 02:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
carramrod01 First Sergeant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: a little to the left Posts: 573	I doubt HL2 will have this problem though because they get to take pretty much all the time they want with it (as they've already proved). Its just that BF:V had this deadline that was much too soon for them and they never had the chance to optimize for ATI. They will get to it, it's just a shame they couldn't do it earlier. __________________ #12279 by lucifersam (User) at 2004-02-21 01:56:14 GMT how do i watch this?...how do i \"unrare\" files?

03-23-2004, 07:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	I don't think deals mean much. It's just who has their logo on the box and who gets optimized first. Both manufacturers should run really good games with their top end cards. __________________

03-23-2004, 07:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
yetix Major Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bob's Panzer Garage, BFE Arkansas Posts: 3,191	1900x1220@32bit 75hz refresh on Sony Trinitron 24" 16x10aspect messed with AA/Af, no real difference...plays fine, could look better on some maps. waiting on optimization/ATi work for my ATi 9700 Pro. __________________

03-23-2004, 07:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
grim reaper Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 7,256	well i got a 9800 pro and i can run 1600 by 1200 full verything else i get about 70fps solid.

03-23-2004, 07:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
carramrod01 First Sergeant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: a little to the left Posts: 573	I've been playing at 1024x768 and when I play the L's are totally missing from the chat. Say someone says "lol" all I see is " o ". I had this problem with 4.3 and I went back to 4.2 on advice saying it fixed problems in general with it and it did. Aside from that "minor" issue. Most people with ATI cards do prefer to play with all the eye candy since they handle it way better than nVidia cards. If you play with AA or AF you will once again run into problems with BF:V. Thats really a shame, almost all games now support it but BF:V has a lot of issues if you enable those. __________________ #12279 by lucifersam (User) at 2004-02-21 01:56:14 GMT how do i watch this?...how do i \"unrare\" files?

03-23-2004, 09:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
carramrod01 First Sergeant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: a little to the left Posts: 573	Well when you mention something I brought up in the first place I'm going to comment on it, especially since your wrong. "I don't think deals mean much." Wow seriously? Because big companies like that love to form partnerships with each other and if you don't think that means much then your probably on something... on a related note, can you tell me what and where I can get some of what youre smoking? __________________ #12279 by lucifersam (User) at 2004-02-21 01:56:14 GMT how do i watch this?...how do i \"unrare\" files?

03-23-2004, 11:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	It's my opinion, ok? When I said deals don't mean much I meant that they don't really effect the consumer in most circumstances except for rushed games. IE, deals won't matter with Half-Life 2, Doom 3, etc. __________________

03-24-2004, 03:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	That's just a publicity stunt. You really think Valve is just going to optimize Half-Life 2 just for ATI cards? If they do, over half the market will be getting crappy graphics. In BFV's case, Nvidia came first and because the game was rushed ATI had to temporarily get left behind. These deals are just who gets optimizations first and their name on the box. That's all. __________________

03-24-2004, 04:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
Rexxie General Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 1,169	You are missing the point. It will surely look good on all cards, but you may get better performance with a radeon. At least at the start, depends on how much they have optimized it before the release. Anyway, that's really off topic. I'm running on medium and no shadows, 1024x768, no AA, no AF, low sound quality (supposedly it runs better). Then again, I just started playing it Can't wait for the patch on friday, that's gonna fix alot of problems for me and other ATI users __________________ - Rexxars Sanity is a full time job.

03-24-2004, 09:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
English First Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 1,681	What should happen is that Nvidia and Radeon should make their cards compatible with Direct3D and OpenGL, so they run smoothly with the latest versions. Programmers then decide which graphics standard they want to use and code for that. It all works fine in theory ! However they have to test the game on some card... Its strange how the different cards are supposed to support the same standards but work differently. I wouldnt mind if it was hardware related but it seems to be mainly drivers. __________________ -And death shall have no dominion....