bf2trends.com : viewing player statistics over time

yantri · 08-02-2005, 09:06 AM

Greetings! I've been looking at all these websites showing player statistics (bf2s.com being my favorite) and thought of another idea.

In brief, a service that captures player stats on a daily basis, and generates some cool graphs showing trends in scores, kills, deaths, cp captures, etc. I personally think is much cooler than simply viewing current stats. I want to know the rate of my progress, which of my friends is progressing faster than me, etc.

So I'm working on bf2trends.com and thought you guys here in the bfnation.net forums would make good testers :) I'm not going to post anywhere else for a while, and am hoping you can give me some feedback, tips, and suggestions.

Everything is ready, from the engine that grabs stats daily, to charts that are dynamically generated. Now all I need is to start capturing trends for those who are interested. And yes, I did it all on my own :)

For more:
http://www.bf2trends.com

Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

-- Hoshi.

dr_claw · 08-02-2005, 10:34 AM

sweet. i'm looking forward to my first report

insinuwait · 08-02-2005, 01:52 PM

very good idea. I signed up

mrhahn · 08-02-2005, 02:29 PM

I was wondering when something like this would be created, looks very good already. Let me know when you're ready for a public release (dropping an email to mrhahn @ BFNation.net is probably the easiest way) and I'll be sure to front page it.

Out of interest, do you have adequate hosting at the moment? I imagine that a BF2 site that's main focus is images could quickly run through its usage allowance, which is where I might be able to help you out. Again, drop me an email if you're interested.

yantri · 08-02-2005, 04:42 PM

Thanks! Yeah I'm good as far as bandwith goes. Atlease for the moment

I'm allowed 80GB / month. I'll be keeping a close eye.

TitanSound · 08-02-2005, 04:54 PM

Cant see the page at work :/

Will try when I get home, looks very intresting and useful

KuranesGrey · 08-02-2005, 06:26 PM

Great idea, thanks for doing this! One suggestion: the derivative of score is more interesting that score itself. Ie: don't show me a graph of my points, show me a graph of my points/hour so I can see how fast I'm improving.

You may also find the stats analysis I did on player performance interesting as a way to compare individual trends from the global average.

yantri · 08-02-2005, 08:52 PM

KuranesGrey, I agree. I have already started work on graphs showing the rate of increase in player score. Also working on ones showing amount of time played, which when combined with score, show performance. Thanks for the ideas!

Splintercell · 08-02-2005, 09:20 PM

Can't sign up cause i havent played for 24 hrs?

yantri · 08-03-2005, 12:05 AM

Splintercell : initially the server tracked accounts that have atleast 24 hours of *total* gameplay (the amount of time spent playing the game). Since the trend server fetches stats everyday, (hopefully for years to come) it would be a waste for it to continue capturing stats for inactive accounts.

This avoids tracking accounts which have a mere 2 mins of play time and which may never be used again. The notion being that if you have played on that an account for 24 total hours, chances are you will continue using your account.

Anyway, I reduced the limit from 24 hours (which seems like a lot for some active players) to one hour. In short, you have to have played on that account for atleast an hour for it to be tracked by the trend server. Any thoughts on this limit?

TyphoonSupport · 08-03-2005, 12:07 AM

Cool idea, it may help point out those that are exploiting the system also.

mrhahn · 08-03-2005, 02:46 AM

Couldn't you just have a script run once a day that deletes tracking accounts that haven't had any activity in the past *X* days?

Cøyøte · 08-03-2005, 02:56 AM

Hm. Idve left it for 24... It takes,..What, 7 hours for the average person to hit Lance Corp? Iunno. I DEFINATELY understand what your saying about wanting to avoid the 'chaff' accounts, I wouldnt be ticked if you left it at a day...

Eclipso · 08-03-2005, 05:58 AM

awesome idea.

[BFN] Night Star · 08-03-2005, 08:28 AM

Bet you get this running faster and better then the actuall game.

heh

What?

Rataboy · 08-03-2005, 09:32 PM

I'm trying to sign up and it keeps saying:

"The player id/nick you entered could not be found. Please try again."

yantri · 08-04-2005, 12:28 AM

aah thanks - you helped me catch a bug. you have a 7 digit player id which the server rejected. Will work for you now :)

SpudBoy · 08-04-2005, 12:31 AM

live idea

dead link

yantri · 08-04-2005, 01:45 AM

dead link ... or bad connection?

420 · 08-04-2005, 02:55 AM

awesome, I just signed up.

08-02-2005, 09:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
yantri Private Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	bf2trends.com : viewing player statistics over time Greetings! I've been looking at all these websites showing player statistics (bf2s.com being my favorite) and thought of another idea. In brief, a service that captures player stats on a daily basis, and generates some cool graphs showing trends in scores, kills, deaths, cp captures, etc. I personally think is much cooler than simply viewing current stats. I want to know the rate of my progress, which of my friends is progressing faster than me, etc. So I'm working on bf2trends.com and thought you guys here in the bfnation.net forums would make good testers :) I'm not going to post anywhere else for a while, and am hoping you can give me some feedback, tips, and suggestions. Everything is ready, from the engine that grabs stats daily, to charts that are dynamically generated. Now all I need is to start capturing trends for those who are interested. And yes, I did it all on my own :) For more: http://www.bf2trends.com Thanks for taking the time to read this post. -- Hoshi.

08-02-2005, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
dr_claw Private 1st Class Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 114	sweet. i'm looking forward to my first report __________________ \"my stats are better than yours.\"

08-02-2005, 01:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
insinuwait First Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,761	very good idea. I signed up __________________ I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

08-02-2005, 04:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
TitanSound Captain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 2,784	Cant see the page at work :/ Will try when I get home, looks very intresting and useful __________________ "You often find drummers have amazing memories, they have to remember long musical phrases as pure data, its almost binary"

08-03-2005, 12:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
TyphoonSupport Private 1st Class Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Everywhere Posts: 145	Cool idea, it may help point out those that are exploiting the system also. __________________ E-Mail: sales@typhoonservers.com Website: www.typhoonservers.com

08-02-2005, 02:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
mrhahn General Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,925	I was wondering when something like this would be created, looks very good already. Let me know when you're ready for a public release (dropping an email to mrhahn @ BFNation.net is probably the easiest way) and I'll be sure to front page it. Out of interest, do you have adequate hosting at the moment? I imagine that a BF2 site that's main focus is images could quickly run through its usage allowance, which is where I might be able to help you out. Again, drop me an email if you're interested.

08-02-2005, 04:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
yantri Private Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	Thanks! Yeah I'm good as far as bandwith goes. Atlease for the moment I'm allowed 80GB / month. I'll be keeping a close eye.

08-02-2005, 06:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
KuranesGrey Private Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 14	Great idea, thanks for doing this! One suggestion: the derivative of score is more interesting that score itself. Ie: don't show me a graph of my points, show me a graph of my points/hour so I can see how fast I'm improving. You may also find the stats analysis I did on player performance interesting as a way to compare individual trends from the global average.

08-02-2005, 08:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
yantri Private Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	KuranesGrey, I agree. I have already started work on graphs showing the rate of increase in player score. Also working on ones showing amount of time played, which when combined with score, show performance. Thanks for the ideas!

08-02-2005, 09:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Splintercell Warrant Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 818	Can't sign up cause i havent played for 24 hrs?

08-03-2005, 12:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
yantri Private Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	Splintercell : initially the server tracked accounts that have atleast 24 hours of total gameplay (the amount of time spent playing the game). Since the trend server fetches stats everyday, (hopefully for years to come) it would be a waste for it to continue capturing stats for inactive accounts. This avoids tracking accounts which have a mere 2 mins of play time and which may never be used again. The notion being that if you have played on that an account for 24 total hours, chances are you will continue using your account. Anyway, I reduced the limit from 24 hours (which seems like a lot for some active players) to one hour. In short, you have to have played on that account for atleast an hour for it to be tracked by the trend server. Any thoughts on this limit?

08-03-2005, 02:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
mrhahn General Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,925	Couldn't you just have a script run once a day that deletes tracking accounts that haven't had any activity in the past X days?

08-03-2005, 02:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Cøyøte Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,424	Hm. Idve left it for 24... It takes,..What, 7 hours for the average person to hit Lance Corp? Iunno. I DEFINATELY understand what your saying about wanting to avoid the 'chaff' accounts, I wouldnt be ticked if you left it at a day... __________________ "We are Dyslexia of Borg. All your ass will be laminated" Don't call your ISP when your computer breaks. You dont call the Dept. of roads when your car breaks down, nor the power company when a lightbulb burns out. They dont want to hear it, and neither do we."-Coyote

08-03-2005, 05:58 AM	#14 (permalink)
Eclipso Private 1st Class Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 113	awesome idea. __________________

08-03-2005, 08:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
[BFN] Night Star Master Warrant Officer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Eminiet domain Capital of the US Posts: 1,297	Bet you get this running faster and better then the actuall game. heh What? __________________ Looking forward to Spore. Looking forward to bf1942. 12841

08-03-2005, 09:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
Rataboy Private Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 32	I'm trying to sign up and it keeps saying: "The player id/nick you entered could not be found. Please try again." __________________

08-04-2005, 12:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
yantri Private Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	aah thanks - you helped me catch a bug. you have a 7 digit player id which the server rejected. Will work for you now :)

08-04-2005, 12:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
SpudBoy Private Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 31	live idea dead link __________________ SpudBoy on maXbimmer get www.xfire.com SpudSniper on Battlefield 2 spudsniper on xfire prefered kits: Anti-tank and Support/Medic available: most Evenings and weekends

08-04-2005, 01:45 AM	#19 (permalink)
yantri Private Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10	dead link ... or bad connection?

08-04-2005, 02:55 AM	#20 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,605	awesome, I just signed up.