Planes

Fishfinger · 03-31-2006, 09:12 AM

Playing clean sweep last nite the pilots seem to be unbelievably good, I did take quite a few out with AA though,

but one actually came back at me low and hidden from lock by the only tree around, is it possible to know the maps that well and be such a good pilot?
If I'm flying I dont have a clue where I am and seem to fly past so fast that I dont have time to react :/
Do you have to slow down ? there must be something going on that I'm missing

BenSpazz · 03-31-2006, 12:25 PM

yes, it is possible to be that good. i for one know where every AA emplacment is in every map. i can can tell whice one is attacking me by looking at which way the missle comes from.

Rambo_Medic · 03-31-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishfinger

If I'm flying I dont have a clue where I am and seem to fly past so fast that I dont have time to react :/

Well... Maybe you should stick to the ground?

Amraam · 03-31-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo_Medic

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Originally Posted by Fishfinger

If I'm flying I dont have a clue where I am and seem to fly past so fast that I dont have time to react :/

Well... Maybe you should stick to the ground?

U get used to it and a joystick helps.

Fishfinger · 03-31-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo_Medic

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Originally Posted by Fishfinger

If I'm flying I dont have a clue where I am and seem to fly past so fast that I dont have time to react :/

Well... Maybe you should stick to the ground?

Always been on the ground just fancy a change and fed up with being killed by them, I seem to be quite good in a dog fight

Aviator 00:51:53 26 kills 30 deaths

I do have a joystick now, its made a big difference to my flying but I'm still having trouble finding targets on the ground.
Ben do you slow down alot or do you just fly at max all the time?

Rambo_Medic · 03-31-2006, 06:53 PM

Hehe yeah I was just joking, fish. You could probably kill me easily. I havent touched planes lately and I'm out of touch. I've been very focused on infantry combat so... yeah.

My wings have been clipped.

Fishfinger · 03-31-2006, 07:47 PM

If I'm in the sky and your on the ground your totally safe from me killing you, unless I crash into you

Astralman · 03-31-2006, 07:50 PM

Slow down. Well, be able to slow down and speed up. Flying on empty servers and practicing certain things will improve your abilities pretty fast.

Doing bombing runs, you can slow down to 350, just don't be too low. Approaching choppers for the kill, 450 - 500 gives you enough time on target before you fly past. The only need for speed is for dogfighting. Even then, throttling back on someone who's balls to the wall is better than trying to out run them with afterburners. Nothing like having a pursuer suddenly appear in your sights.

Get on a map with a good armor spawn, like the Wetlands, and practice using low speeds. You have to find your joystick's sweetspot. If you lose too much speed you'll drop like a rock before you can adjust. Listen to the engines to get your feedback, and mark where on that joystick your throttle likes to be. When in game, keep your hand on that baby and work it like you'd work the stick in an Indy car. Don't set it at one speed fits all and try to adjust your work to that.

Deathmaker · 03-31-2006, 08:17 PM

I hardly ever slow down; in fast & out fast seems to work best for me, especially as slowing down and speeding up again seems to take an age in BF2.

That's the total opposte style compared to how I used to fly in DC, well, in the bombers anyway. In DC I usually took the Froggy or A10 up really high, slammed on the reverse thrust then dropped vertically, really slowly. That way I could take out 2 or 3 tanks with ease using the guns only before anyone even heard me coming.

BF2 is all about bombs & angles of attack rather than guns when it comes to popping open tanks (especially in a fighter), it's much more difficult to get armor kills now than it was in DC, especially multiple kills, even with the funkeh target HUD.

BenSpazz · 03-31-2006, 08:31 PM

i never slow down unless im in a jet dogfight and they slow down. other that that my aim is good enof that a full speed pass works for me. but for a newer pilot id say slow down just for killing choppers. other than that u should be well off.

and on bombing runs in fighters you need to be at a good angle and at FULL SPEED. the speed cuts down on the drag taking effect and carries the bomb straighter

Fishfinger · 03-31-2006, 08:41 PM

Thx chaps
I have no idea how to use the sights though

Sinster · 03-31-2006, 11:01 PM

I hate the aircraft in BF2... Being able to pick off troops with accuracy while on the ground with the guns, especially going balls to the wall.

TitanSound · 03-31-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishfinger

Thx chaps
I have no idea how to use the sights though

Line up the target with the bottom of the sight....release earlier than you expect though! Go on Clean Sweep single player and grab the f-15 before those stupid bots do!

lego · 03-31-2006, 11:15 PM

I remember when I was on point at my BF2/1942 peaks, I could take just abut anything out of the sky weather it was me in a chopper vs planes in DC, or whatever, if you master flying in these games its really REALLY easy to dominate and remember everything about a map.

Astralman · 03-31-2006, 11:25 PM

TO each their own, I guess. I'd have to know how accurate someone is in terms of collateral damage (teamkills) with this speed thing. Knowing the map is critical in my view. Knowing where the edges are is one thing that's important. Having that spacial reference in all attitudes - upside down, climbing, rolling, etc. Also, knowing how to approach the runways for rearming is important. You operate on all parts of a map eventually, so getting home...knowing where home is...good thing there. With the terrain on some maps, knowing the height of mountains at certain points, and was mentioned above, getting the anti-air ground emplacements located for each map is critical. I never fly in-game on a map I've not flown for hours on an empty server. For me it's like typing while wearing boxing gloves. Better to let someone who knows the map have the jet.

BenSpazz · 04-01-2006, 01:25 AM

hey Astralman, whats ur ingame name? i want to look you up some time and dogfight. might be fun

Fishfinger · 04-01-2006, 01:34 AM

I dont like servers with loads of people on, usually join ones with 20ish players, so its not really to big a problem if a n00b like me flys off

I do know most maps well now anyway

BenSpazz · 04-01-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishfinger

I dont like servers with loads of people on, usually join ones with 20ish players, so its not really to big a problem if a n00b like me flys off

I do know most maps well now anyway

if u like small server and would like a free flying lesson come visit the KMU server (16-man):

Name= KMU Clan Server Ranked
IP= 70.84.175.108 (default port)
Ventrilo IP (if you want a verbal lesson :P )= 69.12.30.137:2322

03-31-2006, 09:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fishfinger Major Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Shire of Wilts Posts: 3,508	Planes Playing clean sweep last nite the pilots seem to be unbelievably good, I did take quite a few out with AA though, but one actually came back at me low and hidden from lock by the only tree around, is it possible to know the maps that well and be such a good pilot? If I'm flying I dont have a clue where I am and seem to fly past so fast that I dont have time to react :/ Do you have to slow down ? there must be something going on that I'm missing __________________ Your message here My Stats

03-31-2006, 12:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
BenSpazz Command Sergeant Major Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LaGrange, Ohio Posts: 716	yes, it is possible to be that good. i for one know where every AA emplacment is in every map. i can can tell whice one is attacking me by looking at which way the missle comes from. __________________ My Stats

03-31-2006, 07:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fishfinger Major Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Shire of Wilts Posts: 3,508	If I'm in the sky and your on the ground your totally safe from me killing you, unless I crash into you __________________ Your message here My Stats

03-31-2006, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Deathmaker Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 349	I hardly ever slow down; in fast & out fast seems to work best for me, especially as slowing down and speeding up again seems to take an age in BF2. That's the total opposte style compared to how I used to fly in DC, well, in the bombers anyway. In DC I usually took the Froggy or A10 up really high, slammed on the reverse thrust then dropped vertically, really slowly. That way I could take out 2 or 3 tanks with ease using the guns only before anyone even heard me coming. BF2 is all about bombs & angles of attack rather than guns when it comes to popping open tanks (especially in a fighter), it's much more difficult to get armor kills now than it was in DC, especially multiple kills, even with the funkeh target HUD. __________________

03-31-2006, 08:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
BenSpazz Command Sergeant Major Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LaGrange, Ohio Posts: 716	i never slow down unless im in a jet dogfight and they slow down. other that that my aim is good enof that a full speed pass works for me. but for a newer pilot id say slow down just for killing choppers. other than that u should be well off. and on bombing runs in fighters you need to be at a good angle and at FULL SPEED. the speed cuts down on the drag taking effect and carries the bomb straighter __________________ My Stats

03-31-2006, 07:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Astralman Corporal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 186	Slow down. Well, be able to slow down and speed up. Flying on empty servers and practicing certain things will improve your abilities pretty fast. Doing bombing runs, you can slow down to 350, just don't be too low. Approaching choppers for the kill, 450 - 500 gives you enough time on target before you fly past. The only need for speed is for dogfighting. Even then, throttling back on someone who's balls to the wall is better than trying to out run them with afterburners. Nothing like having a pursuer suddenly appear in your sights. Get on a map with a good armor spawn, like the Wetlands, and practice using low speeds. You have to find your joystick's sweetspot. If you lose too much speed you'll drop like a rock before you can adjust. Listen to the engines to get your feedback, and mark where on that joystick your throttle likes to be. When in game, keep your hand on that baby and work it like you'd work the stick in an Indy car. Don't set it at one speed fits all and try to adjust your work to that.

03-31-2006, 08:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fishfinger Major Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Shire of Wilts Posts: 3,508	Thx chaps I have no idea how to use the sights though __________________ Your message here My Stats

03-31-2006, 11:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sinster Staff Sergeant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 266	I hate the aircraft in BF2... Being able to pick off troops with accuracy while on the ground with the guns, especially going balls to the wall. __________________

03-31-2006, 11:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
lego Major Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: big elephants Posts: 3,682	I remember when I was on point at my BF2/1942 peaks, I could take just abut anything out of the sky weather it was me in a chopper vs planes in DC, or whatever, if you master flying in these games its really REALLY easy to dominate and remember everything about a map. __________________ of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most.

03-31-2006, 11:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Astralman Corporal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 186	TO each their own, I guess. I'd have to know how accurate someone is in terms of collateral damage (teamkills) with this speed thing. Knowing the map is critical in my view. Knowing where the edges are is one thing that's important. Having that spacial reference in all attitudes - upside down, climbing, rolling, etc. Also, knowing how to approach the runways for rearming is important. You operate on all parts of a map eventually, so getting home...knowing where home is...good thing there. With the terrain on some maps, knowing the height of mountains at certain points, and was mentioned above, getting the anti-air ground emplacements located for each map is critical. I never fly in-game on a map I've not flown for hours on an empty server. For me it's like typing while wearing boxing gloves. Better to let someone who knows the map have the jet. __________________

04-01-2006, 01:25 AM	#16 (permalink)
BenSpazz Command Sergeant Major Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LaGrange, Ohio Posts: 716	hey Astralman, whats ur ingame name? i want to look you up some time and dogfight. might be fun __________________ My Stats

04-01-2006, 01:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
Fishfinger Major Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Shire of Wilts Posts: 3,508	I dont like servers with loads of people on, usually join ones with 20ish players, so its not really to big a problem if a n00b like me flys off I do know most maps well now anyway __________________ Your message here My Stats