Get special forces weapons without owning special forces

grim reaper · 12-07-2005, 08:28 PM

http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg...&p_topview =1

Sounds okay. Nice of them to give them away free.

antiAv · 12-07-2005, 10:55 PM

If I'm understanding this correctly, they just flicked a switch and now you don't have to own that "expansion" pack to use the new handheld hardware?

Gort · 12-07-2005, 11:44 PM

Grim, I'm assuming that your thread title should say "without" rather than "with"? I would imagine that you get the unlocks if you own SF.

Eclipso · 12-08-2005, 04:10 AM

Well this is logical since people use the SF weapons in normal BF. The only way you can get the weapons "free" is to pick up the kit from a dead avatar people had / have been doing that since 1.12 came out. I appoligize for the brashness but whats the big deal about this?

Soyuz · 12-08-2005, 05:22 AM

Do I understand correctly, EA is giving us new weapons for free?
Are they actually being nice!

Or did I miss something?

grim reaper · 12-08-2005, 12:21 PM

From what I interpreted is that when you get to 5000 points you are given a choice of what you want to unlock, a normal or a SF gun.

Rambo_Medic · 12-08-2005, 02:48 PM

....Wow, thats kinda gay.

I paid 30$ for the new weapons, the new maps were a side perk!

WTH!? Way to negate my purchase EA.

JonFrey · 12-08-2005, 04:21 PM

Yeah, that kinda sucks, specially since I like only two of the damn maps...

Dick_Justice · 12-08-2005, 09:35 PM

Ha ha, good thing I didn´t bother to get the bloody expansion pack...

If theres one thing I´ve learn´t from the BF series, is that its expansion packs arn´t worth it on the long term !

Gort · 12-08-2005, 11:37 PM

Some clarification. The EA announcement is poorly worded at best. If you do not have SF, you do not get the SF weapons UNLESS you kill someone and pick up their SF kit. I sometimes wonder if english is a second language for the people that work at EA.

Having said that, we discovered that anyone can have the unlocks at any time (providing the servers you join allow unlocks). You have to know someone you trust that has SF. Allow them to log into your account (that's where the trust factor comes in seeing as you have to tell them your PW to log in), let them play a few minutes and then log off. The account server thinks you have SF and remembers that. This is known as the 'account trick'. It took about a half hour to figure this out after SF was released. Some consider an exploit, some don't.

This is a close to a true expansion pack as we'll probably ever see. Other wise it's just a commercial mod. RtR, SWofWWII were all commercial mods, dispite EA touting them as expansions. At least with SF the weapons are available in vanilla BF2 one way or the other. If it was a true expansion pack, then we would not need to have dedicated BF2 and SF servers. The same with BF42. They attempted to make it more of an expansion by allowing a server to mix and match maps from RtR and SWofWWII which was BS. You got booted from the server if you didn't have the map so it was a bogus attempt as far as I was concerned to call these expansions. I learned my lesson with BF42 as far as RtR goes and I didn't bother with SWofWWII so you guessed it, I won't be getting SF either.

Rambo_Medic · 12-09-2005, 03:37 AM

Thanks for clearing that up Gort!

Yay I pwn you all at being a consumer whore!

Caslon · 12-09-2005, 05:55 AM

Damn SF flash bang grenades or whatever turns my screen white have no business being in BF2 regular.

Eclipso · 12-09-2005, 07:42 AM

lol yes they do, a nice flash bang here or there never hurt anyone.

Amraam · 12-09-2005, 10:57 AM

Caslon, just dont look at them

Trident · 12-09-2005, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caslon

Damn SF flash bang grenades or whatever turns my screen white have no business being in BF2 regular.

That's right! Get them the F@#$ out of BF2

Really... is EA trying to ruin BF on purpose? What's next... flame throwers

Gort · 12-09-2005, 04:41 PM

Initially I was majorly pissed off that people that have SF get an advantage in vanilla BF2 because of the unlocks, particularly the flash bangs. I didn't think it was right to have to pay just to stay even with everyone else. But it doesn't bother me anymore seeing as I can access everything. I haven't had any real issues with being screwed over by the FBs or any of the new kits. I've blinded myself more often than the enemy has... come to think of it, I don't think I have been FBd by the enemy yet.

Fishfinger · 12-09-2005, 05:44 PM

So does this mean I didnt have to buy SFs?
Why did I spend £17 on it? :/
Fecking EA are wankers

Gort · 12-09-2005, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishfinger

So does this mean I didnt have to buy SFs?
Why did I spend £17 on it? :/
Fecking EA are wankers

That depends. If you wanted the maps and the mod portion of the 'exspansion' (ie to be able to play actual SF) then you 17 pounds is well spent. If you were only interested in adding the weapons to BF2 then you were ripped off.

I agree that EA are a bunch of wankers tho. I'm sure if Dice could have published their games on their own without EA, things would have turned out a lot differently for the entire franchise. I think Dice cares about the end users where I don't believe EA does.

JonFrey · 12-09-2005, 06:37 PM

In addition, you get the weapons but not all the fun bits of SF in BF2... I have grown to love the grappling hook and zip line and wish I could use them in Karkand! I play on SF servers just for them, otherwise I would be back with regular BF2.

Gort · 12-10-2005, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gort

If you wanted the maps and the mod portion of the 'exspansion' (ie to be able to play actual SF) then you 17 pounds is well spent. .

Hmm re reading this, I realized I forgot some punctuation (who cares about the spelling errors). It should read;

"If you wanted the maps and the mod portion of the 'exspansion' (ie to be able to play actual SF) then you 17 pounds is, well... spent."

12-07-2005, 08:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
grim reaper Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 7,256	Get special forces weapons without owning special forces http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg...&p_topview =1 Sounds okay. Nice of them to give them away free.

12-07-2005, 11:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gort Warrant Officer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southern BC, Canada Posts: 825	Grim, I'm assuming that your thread title should say "without" rather than "with"? I would imagine that you get the unlocks if you own SF. __________________ 8)´

12-08-2005, 04:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Eclipso Private 1st Class Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 113	Well this is logical since people use the SF weapons in normal BF. The only way you can get the weapons "free" is to pick up the kit from a dead avatar people had / have been doing that since 1.12 came out. I appoligize for the brashness but whats the big deal about this? __________________

12-08-2005, 04:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
JonFrey Command Sergeant Major Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 720	Yeah, that kinda sucks, specially since I like only two of the damn maps... __________________ Jon Frey

12-08-2005, 09:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dick_Justice Major Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marl, Germany Posts: 3,350	Ha ha, good thing I didn´t bother to get the bloody expansion pack... If theres one thing I´ve learn´t from the BF series, is that its expansion packs arn´t worth it on the long term ! __________________ Plays BF 2 in Europe under the name of \"Erich_Felsner\"

12-07-2005, 10:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
antiAv Specialist Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 218	If I'm understanding this correctly, they just flicked a switch and now you don't have to own that "expansion" pack to use the new handheld hardware?

12-08-2005, 05:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Soyuz Second Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,472	Do I understand correctly, EA is giving us new weapons for free? Are they actually being nice! Or did I miss something?

12-08-2005, 12:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
grim reaper Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 7,256	From what I interpreted is that when you get to 5000 points you are given a choice of what you want to unlock, a normal or a SF gun.

12-08-2005, 11:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gort Warrant Officer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southern BC, Canada Posts: 825	Some clarification. The EA announcement is poorly worded at best. If you do not have SF, you do not get the SF weapons UNLESS you kill someone and pick up their SF kit. I sometimes wonder if english is a second language for the people that work at EA. Having said that, we discovered that anyone can have the unlocks at any time (providing the servers you join allow unlocks). You have to know someone you trust that has SF. Allow them to log into your account (that's where the trust factor comes in seeing as you have to tell them your PW to log in), let them play a few minutes and then log off. The account server thinks you have SF and remembers that. This is known as the 'account trick'. It took about a half hour to figure this out after SF was released. Some consider an exploit, some don't. This is a close to a true expansion pack as we'll probably ever see. Other wise it's just a commercial mod. RtR, SWofWWII were all commercial mods, dispite EA touting them as expansions. At least with SF the weapons are available in vanilla BF2 one way or the other. If it was a true expansion pack, then we would not need to have dedicated BF2 and SF servers. The same with BF42. They attempted to make it more of an expansion by allowing a server to mix and match maps from RtR and SWofWWII which was BS. You got booted from the server if you didn't have the map so it was a bogus attempt as far as I was concerned to call these expansions. I learned my lesson with BF42 as far as RtR goes and I didn't bother with SWofWWII so you guessed it, I won't be getting SF either. __________________ 8)´

12-09-2005, 05:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Caslon Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deep inside the Earth. Posts: 4,803	Damn SF flash bang grenades or whatever turns my screen white have no business being in BF2 regular.

12-09-2005, 07:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
Eclipso Private 1st Class Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 113	lol yes they do, a nice flash bang here or there never hurt anyone. __________________

12-09-2005, 10:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
Amraam First Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 1,631	Caslon, just dont look at them __________________ My BF2 Stats The cake is a lie!

12-09-2005, 04:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
Gort Warrant Officer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Southern BC, Canada Posts: 825	Initially I was majorly pissed off that people that have SF get an advantage in vanilla BF2 because of the unlocks, particularly the flash bangs. I didn't think it was right to have to pay just to stay even with everyone else. But it doesn't bother me anymore seeing as I can access everything. I haven't had any real issues with being screwed over by the FBs or any of the new kits. I've blinded myself more often than the enemy has... come to think of it, I don't think I have been FBd by the enemy yet. __________________ 8)´

12-09-2005, 05:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Fishfinger Major Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Shire of Wilts Posts: 3,508	So does this mean I didnt have to buy SFs? Why did I spend £17 on it? :/ Fecking EA are wankers __________________ Your message here My Stats

12-09-2005, 06:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
JonFrey Command Sergeant Major Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 720	In addition, you get the weapons but not all the fun bits of SF in BF2... I have grown to love the grappling hook and zip line and wish I could use them in Karkand! I play on SF servers just for them, otherwise I would be back with regular BF2. __________________ Jon Frey