Snipers, are they BF2's most underrated class? - Page 2

Gort · 10-28-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan Zizka

Snipers can kill in one shot, it just needs to be a nice cean head shot...then that big melon goes POP!

They're great as scouts as well, get close to an enemy base and report their movements. The keys to being a sniper is good positioning, concelament, patience and a responsive commander to drop ammo for you.

I disagree completely. Any hit to the head should be a kill no matter which sniper rifle you use and not just a 'clean head shot'. Any hit to the torso with a 50 cal (M95) sniper rifle should be a kill. If you're in one position long enough that you need to be resupplied, the enemy is too lame to worry about and you'd be knife bait at any other time. Sorry, sniping is essentially a useless kit (IMO).

TitanSound · 10-28-2005, 09:03 PM

Snipers are best suited for medium range combat, supporting your squad from behind you. He can get some decent kills with the semi-auto rifles and then claymore choke points after you have a flag.

Jan Zizka · 10-29-2005, 03:49 PM

I also find they are good for counter sniping operations.

There are maps like Sharqi Peninsula where guys like to get up in the cranes and snipe all match long. I found a spot on Sahrqi Peninsula you can hide and pop those guys in that tower by the construction site all day long and they have no idea where you are shooting from.

Nothing better than to watch them go tumbling down from the crane.

andyarm · 10-29-2005, 07:40 PM

the only problem i face when im sniper (not just that i cant hit anything) is the fact taht if you stay in one place for a little time, everyone shouts at you saying ur camping.

but thats what snipers do. they wait for their pray.

thats why i hardly play as sniper anymore.

Other than that snipers, for me, are one of the best classes on taht game!

if only people understood snipers DO camp sometimes.

Andyarm

K_Shizzle · 10-29-2005, 08:52 PM

i am always moving when i am a sniper, if u don't move ur position can easily be given away

Eclipso · 10-29-2005, 10:03 PM

I think the registry in the game needs tweaked a bit and then the snipers will be worth something, as far as sniping goes, I usually only pick it after someone picks me off once or twice then I pick it and return the favor.

Trident · 10-29-2005, 11:07 PM

I can't count the times i've been killed by a sniper. They must be worth something!

andyarm · 10-30-2005, 10:09 AM

i was playing on the singleplayer last night as a sniper all round and (even though it was singleplayer) never died and scored over 500 kills with 1 life. and im nt experienced using it. so they are worth loads in the hands of a good sniper. its just finding that person sometimes.

Deathmaker · 10-30-2005, 12:30 PM

Sniper is one of my least played kits, but, in the limited time I've played using the .50cal I've managed to down five Cobras, three of them in one round. :P

Caslon · 10-30-2005, 01:23 PM

I'm repeating myself..but I believe snipers can't kill in one shot no matter how well they aim shots. In BF1942...snipers could take out a guy in one shot.

I'll eventually have to check out Sniper Class to get badges...but Snipers so far are still the last lamers doing nothing at the end of the map when all others are dead. Same as in BF1942.

Trident · 10-31-2005, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Caslon

I'm repeating myself..but I believe snipers can't kill in one shot no matter how well they aim shots.

A well placed head shot will drop someone with one shot. I've done it, and I REARELY play sniper. So there must not be much skill involved to kill with one shot... just shoot him in the head.

jackbauer06 · 10-31-2005, 03:38 AM

scouting is good if your team is smart enoug to capitalize on your spottings. It is just like having a UAV over an area (kinda), i like it.

Caslon · 10-31-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Trident

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Originally Posted by Caslon

I'm repeating myself..but I believe snipers can't kill in one shot no matter how well they aim shots.

A well placed head shot will drop someone with one shot. I've done it, and I REARELY play sniper. So there must not be much skill involved to kill with one shot... just shoot him in the head.

Dude...I've been sniped on plenty in BF2...I've been hit by sniper and brought down to almost no health left...but never...never has ONE
sniper shot EVER killed me in BF2 when I had full health.

Jan Zizka · 10-31-2005, 03:22 PM

I can assure you that a good head shot will kill someone in one shot, fire up a single player game and try it.

I have done it quite a few times so I know from experience it works.

Caslon · 10-31-2005, 03:44 PM

How about we poll ppl who've played over 500 hours and ask them if they've ever been taken out with one shot by sniper?

I doubt any will report back that he was killed by one shot from a sniper.

Shouldn't snipers just be quiet here as they are the last lamers left on team
who let tickets count down without even trying to cap a flag?

Jan Zizka · 10-31-2005, 04:49 PM

Caslon,

Absolutely right, I never do anything to support my team, I mean ALL snipers are really selfish and want nothing more than to camp and not support their teammates.

You hit the nail right on the head......I will keep quiet from here on out.

Cøyøte · 10-31-2005, 05:59 PM

Jan, dont take it personally. It human nature to want to categorize and archetype something we're too ignorant or lazy to try and understand.

Muxje · 10-31-2005, 11:04 PM

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A well placed head shot will drop someone with one shot. I've done it, and I REARELY play sniper. So there must not be much skill involved to kill with one shot... just shoot him in the head.

The skill of snipering isn't dropping your mark... you're prone, relaxed and the target usually unaware. Aim, squeeze, score. A noob will pull it off... then get a knife in the ribs 30 seconds later.

The truly skilled sniper remains unseen, even with a UAV overhead he will be hard to spot (unless of course someone comes up close to off him specifically). He knows where he should be to be an effective killer and help his squad, not rushing in for a cap assistance point but staying put, scouting, and potentially take out enemies near the flag. He knows where to use his claymores effectively.

I like to play sniper as a squad leader... move up close to a flag, remain hidden and scout while the team spawns around me and moves in for the big win.

Cøyøte · 10-31-2005, 11:28 PM

/\ I have to say, I agree with that description. A well trained sniper is going to be moving after every shot,... The concept of a sniper 'camping' was born of too many movies, television, and *ahem* video games.
Im slowing down in how frequently I play BF2, but I know when I do get into the expansion, Im going to be playing it like paintball, or Ghost Recon. Take the oppourtunity when it happens, and until it does you update your team on enemy movements.
If your into playing 'John Rambo'/Lone Wolf, take a kit with armour, for your sake AND mine..

Gort · 11-01-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan Zizka

I can assure you that a good head shot will kill someone in one shot, fire up a single player game and try it.

I have done it quite a few times so I know from experience it works.

What is the difference between a 'good' head shot and a 'bad' head shot? A head shot is a head shot and should result in instant death.

You may have done it 'quite a few times' but what was the health of these few prior to your shot hitting them? (rhetorical, I know you don't know). I've been hit many times by snipers and I have never been killed via a head shot or any single shot from a sniper when I am at full health. It takes me down to about 2 bars of life. Maybe I've been lucky but...

My primary point, the sniper class (I don't care which rifle you use) is nerfed. A 1 shot 1 kill is the exception rather than the rule and my understanding of things work in the real world is contrary to the way things work in the game. Yes it's only a game. Scouting was much more effective and satisfying in BF1942.

10-28-2005, 09:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
TitanSound Captain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 2,808	Snipers are best suited for medium range combat, supporting your squad from behind you. He can get some decent kills with the semi-auto rifles and then claymore choke points after you have a flag. __________________ "You often find drummers have amazing memories, they have to remember long musical phrases as pure data, its almost binary"

10-29-2005, 03:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jan Zizka Private Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 81	Snipers I also find they are good for counter sniping operations. There are maps like Sharqi Peninsula where guys like to get up in the cranes and snipe all match long. I found a spot on Sahrqi Peninsula you can hide and pop those guys in that tower by the construction site all day long and they have no idea where you are shooting from. Nothing better than to watch them go tumbling down from the crane.

10-29-2005, 08:52 PM	#25 (permalink)
K_Shizzle Master Warrant Officer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York, USA Posts: 1,257	i am always moving when i am a sniper, if u don't move ur position can easily be given away __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

10-29-2005, 10:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
Eclipso Private 1st Class Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 113	I think the registry in the game needs tweaked a bit and then the snipers will be worth something, as far as sniping goes, I usually only pick it after someone picks me off once or twice then I pick it and return the favor. __________________

10-29-2005, 11:07 PM	#27 (permalink)
Trident First Sergeant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania - USA Posts: 578	I can't count the times i've been killed by a sniper. They must be worth something! __________________ Have a nice day!

10-30-2005, 12:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
Deathmaker Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 349	Sniper is one of my least played kits, but, in the limited time I've played using the .50cal I've managed to down five Cobras, three of them in one round. :P __________________

10-30-2005, 01:23 PM	#30 (permalink)
Caslon Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deep inside the Earth. Posts: 4,782	I'm repeating myself..but I believe snipers can't kill in one shot no matter how well they aim shots. In BF1942...snipers could take out a guy in one shot. I'll eventually have to check out Sniper Class to get badges...but Snipers so far are still the last lamers doing nothing at the end of the map when all others are dead. Same as in BF1942.

10-31-2005, 03:38 AM	#32 (permalink)
jackbauer06 Private 1st Class Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tempe, Az Posts: 120	scouting is good if your team is smart enoug to capitalize on your spottings. It is just like having a UAV over an area (kinda), i like it. __________________

10-31-2005, 03:22 PM	#34 (permalink)
Jan Zizka Private Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 81	Head Shot I can assure you that a good head shot will kill someone in one shot, fire up a single player game and try it. I have done it quite a few times so I know from experience it works.

10-31-2005, 03:44 PM	#35 (permalink)
Caslon Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deep inside the Earth. Posts: 4,782	How about we poll ppl who've played over 500 hours and ask them if they've ever been taken out with one shot by sniper? I doubt any will report back that he was killed by one shot from a sniper. Shouldn't snipers just be quiet here as they are the last lamers left on team who let tickets count down without even trying to cap a flag?

10-31-2005, 04:49 PM	#36 (permalink)
Jan Zizka Private Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 81	Snipers Caslon, Absolutely right, I never do anything to support my team, I mean ALL snipers are really selfish and want nothing more than to camp and not support their teammates. You hit the nail right on the head......I will keep quiet from here on out.

10-31-2005, 05:59 PM	#37 (permalink)
Cøyøte Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,455	Jan, dont take it personally. It human nature to want to categorize and archetype something we're too ignorant or lazy to try and understand. __________________ "We are Dyslexia of Borg. All your ass will be laminated" Don't call your ISP when your computer breaks. You dont call the Dept. of roads when your car breaks down, nor the power company when a lightbulb burns out. They dont want to hear it, and neither do we."-Coyote

10-31-2005, 11:28 PM	#39 (permalink)
Cøyøte Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,455	/\ I have to say, I agree with that description. A well trained sniper is going to be moving after every shot,... The concept of a sniper 'camping' was born of too many movies, television, and ahem video games. Im slowing down in how frequently I play BF2, but I know when I do get into the expansion, Im going to be playing it like paintball, or Ghost Recon. Take the oppourtunity when it happens, and until it does you update your team on enemy movements. If your into playing 'John Rambo'/Lone Wolf, take a kit with armour, for your sake AND mine.. __________________ "We are Dyslexia of Borg. All your ass will be laminated" Don't call your ISP when your computer breaks. You dont call the Dept. of roads when your car breaks down, nor the power company when a lightbulb burns out. They dont want to hear it, and neither do we."-Coyote