BF 2-SDK online petition

Dick_Justice · 02-02-2005, 02:41 PM

Some guys started an online petition for DICE to release the BF 2 SDK for modders.

Although I dont believe it will achieve anything theres no harm in signing it here: http://www.petitiononline.com/BF2SDK/petition.html

grim reaper · 02-02-2005, 02:57 PM

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190. Frank Delise There will be no SDK, you guys will get a perfect MDT and the tools wich where used to create 98% of BF2. All will be shipped with the game. Some Modgroups get the possibilty to test the MDT earlier. Who? Well, the ones have been informed!

Thats frank from trauma studio who have been eaten by dice to make bf2.

NavalLord · 02-02-2005, 03:49 PM

i signed it, it would hlep out the mods a lot

DanTesla1 · 02-02-2005, 07:27 PM

Signing it. I want one just like the one for HL2.

WOODY · 02-02-2005, 09:14 PM

The fact that they are not releasing an SDK could be taken as good news. It could mean that there's still a future for the BF franchise. I was figuring that if this is the last release in the series because of the by-out from EA, then they wouldn't care and just release it.

Then again, maybe they just want to proctect the engine.

DanTesla1 · 02-02-2005, 09:59 PM

Well, you can change/make 98% of the game. So what's 2%?

NavalLord · 02-02-2005, 10:14 PM

the code
they arnt giving the code to completly alter the game, such as HL mods a very different from HL

Dick_Justice · 02-02-2005, 10:46 PM

Yup, that basicly it !

If you look at all the BF Mods out there, they all follow the same basic mechanics.

You can change the maps, the vehicles, the skins, the weapon codes etc etc. just as many Mods have show. But the actual game-play will always remian the same.
BF and Mods will always be about capping flags of some kind even if you can trick the system sometimes.

Often modders have to tricks the engine to make it do what they want or to include specific features that are unintended by BF.

Now if you look at Half-Life, you will see that lots of mods have very different game-play mechanics. The modders of Half-Life could programm lots and lots of different game-types since they had access to the core code that is revealed through an SDK.

And SDK allows you to alter the core code of the game, while the MDK only allows you to change certain aspects of the game.

Now BF 2 will probably have a powerfull MDK allowing modders to do way more than in previous BF games, yet they still won´t have access to the core code and so probably most BF 2 mods will be about capping flags of some kind aswell.

DanTesla1 · 02-02-2005, 10:49 PM

This doesn't mean it wont' happen. It's just unlikely. :P

urseus · 02-04-2005, 08:06 AM

Gee.

What a suprise.

Valve release the SDK a week or so after the games release, while were still waiting for the Battlefield 1 SDK.

Random Ping · 02-04-2005, 09:21 PM

Sorry to interrupt guys. I'm not much of a modder so I need to know, what is the difference between the SDK and MDT?

grim reaper · 02-04-2005, 09:34 PM

SDK = allows you to alter the game engine

MDT = allows you to add content to the existing engine

maverick514 · 02-04-2005, 10:40 PM

It won't happen.

Great Grizzly · 02-06-2005, 01:42 AM

ha! right, like they would release anything like that.

BTW what is the bf2 engine called?

The Master · 02-06-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by urseus

Valve release the SDK a week or so after the games release, while were still waiting for the Battlefield 1 SDK.

Not to mention that its is packed with trojans and viruses and wild bees which sting your gf and make her look like gabe newell.
Farcry also has an SDK and do you see any good mods?

02-02-2005, 02:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dick_Justice Major Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marl, Germany Posts: 3,350	BF 2-SDK online petition Some guys started an online petition for DICE to release the BF 2 SDK for modders. Although I dont believe it will achieve anything theres no harm in signing it here: http://www.petitiononline.com/BF2SDK/petition.html __________________ Plays BF 2 in Europe under the name of \"Erich_Felsner\"

02-02-2005, 03:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
NavalLord Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,945	i signed it, it would hlep out the mods a lot __________________

02-02-2005, 09:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
WOODY Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Roamng Florida Posts: 358	The fact that they are not releasing an SDK could be taken as good news. It could mean that there's still a future for the BF franchise. I was figuring that if this is the last release in the series because of the by-out from EA, then they wouldn't care and just release it. Then again, maybe they just want to proctect the engine. __________________

02-02-2005, 10:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
NavalLord Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,945	the code they arnt giving the code to completly alter the game, such as HL mods a very different from HL __________________

02-02-2005, 10:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dick_Justice Major Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Marl, Germany Posts: 3,350	Yup, that basicly it ! If you look at all the BF Mods out there, they all follow the same basic mechanics. You can change the maps, the vehicles, the skins, the weapon codes etc etc. just as many Mods have show. But the actual game-play will always remian the same. BF and Mods will always be about capping flags of some kind even if you can trick the system sometimes. Often modders have to tricks the engine to make it do what they want or to include specific features that are unintended by BF. Now if you look at Half-Life, you will see that lots of mods have very different game-play mechanics. The modders of Half-Life could programm lots and lots of different game-types since they had access to the core code that is revealed through an SDK. And SDK allows you to alter the core code of the game, while the MDK only allows you to change certain aspects of the game. Now BF 2 will probably have a powerfull MDK allowing modders to do way more than in previous BF games, yet they still won´t have access to the core code and so probably most BF 2 mods will be about capping flags of some kind aswell. __________________ Plays BF 2 in Europe under the name of \"Erich_Felsner\"

02-04-2005, 08:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
urseus Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 6,073	Gee. What a suprise. Valve release the SDK a week or so after the games release, while were still waiting for the Battlefield 1 SDK. __________________

02-04-2005, 09:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Random Ping Master Warrant Officer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Evergreen State (at least on the West coast) Posts: 1,275	Sorry to interrupt guys. I'm not much of a modder so I need to know, what is the difference between the SDK and MDT? __________________ It is not important that the glass is half-full or half-empty, but rather how the glass got that way.

02-04-2005, 09:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
grim reaper Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 7,255	SDK = allows you to alter the game engine MDT = allows you to add content to the existing engine

02-04-2005, 10:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
maverick514 Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: People's Republic of MA Posts: 6,061	It won't happen. __________________

02-06-2005, 01:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
Great Grizzly Private Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7	ha! right, like they would release anything like that. BTW what is the bf2 engine called?