People damage.

Soviet Idealz · 06-28-2002, 09:09 PM

Is this going to be a one shot (or two or three depending on the hit area) kill game, or is it going to be an unreal frag of doom. I should certainly hope more for the former, although something about a third of the way down the line would be cool too.

pmcall221 · 06-28-2002, 09:48 PM

I think its more of the depending on where you hit the guy. I have seen from movies guys get hit once and die and a few where they take a hit after hit, the MG seems to take the game, the rifles dont seem do much damage.

antiAv · 06-28-2002, 11:16 PM

WTF you talking about?! The rifle kicked ass, a real mans gun! :P
But yea, I personally think/hope that the damage will be alot like MOHAA

-WOODY- · 06-28-2002, 11:17 PM

It all depends on who you are as well. Even if all charactors carried the same weapon, not all have the same effect. The Assault kit will probably be the best at up close action and accuracy. The Medic or the Eng. wont have the same effect. I remember reading where it was said that the Eng. isn't very good at "close quarter combat" and the Medic kit isn't very good at long distance accuracy, so it wont be the same for all.

Soviet Idealz · 06-28-2002, 11:25 PM

I just found out from a preview it is just 1-3 shots to kill, depending on area. (like OFP)

Docastillo · 06-29-2002, 08:46 AM

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It all depends on who you are as well. Even if all charactors carried the same weapon, not all have the same effect. The Assault kit will probably be the best at up close action and accuracy. The Medic or the Eng. wont have the same effect. I remember reading where it was said that the Eng. isn't very good at "close quarter combat" and the Medic kit isn't very good at long distance accuracy, so it wont be the same for all.

There's no difference is aiming per kit. The medic isn't a worse shooter then the assault soldier. The difference lies in the weapons. The Assault soldier simply has a somewhat better machinegun then the medic.

And with the assault soldier... I think you'll need 1 - 4/5 shots now...

Rammstein · 06-29-2002, 10:50 AM

From what i have seen i pretty much die straight away and i rarely no where im getting shot from. Yes i have an old beta so it might be a bit off but i believe it to be realistic as in war how do you know where your being shot. Also as you would expect 1 shot and ur dead from a tank but i also seemed to get sniped alot!!!

ramm

Rammstein · 06-29-2002, 10:52 AM

As someone has said befre i find it simalir to OFP

-WOODY- · 06-29-2002, 11:29 AM

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There's no difference is aiming per kit. The medic isn't a worse shooter then the assault soldier. The difference lies in the weapons.

That may very well be, I don't know. In the article that I read it said that each charactor has his own strengths and weaknesses. It said for one instance the Engineer could fix tanks, set booby traps and mines, but wasn't good at close quarter combat or could shoot targets at long distance. In each of these cases, there was no mention of weapons or weapon type. Maybe by allowing only certain weapons to be available to each charactor is how the programmers work this out. It wouldn't seem right me that no matter what weopan you're carrying would be ineffective or not as good at close quarter combat. Good grief, even a stick is good at close quarter combat! so maybe it's the "damage" effect that each class can inflict rather than weapon type? I don't know.

Docastillo · 06-29-2002, 11:38 AM

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Maybe by allowing only certain weapons to be available to each charactor is how the programmers work this out.

Yes, this is how they work this out.
If you spawn as an engineer, you get a machinegun. When you spawn as assault, you get a better machinegun, but you can't fix stuff no more.
Weapons are kit-bound, and they make the difference...

-WOODY- · 06-29-2002, 11:44 AM

you gotta be kidding! So if I'm an Engineer and the best weapon I have isn't even any good at close quarter combat, I'm in big trouble. What on earth do they give you then, a cap gun?!

Docastillo · 06-29-2002, 11:48 AM

the engineer has some kind of rifle...
And you're right, in close quarter battles, the engineer is in trouble.

BUT... the engineer has C4

So if you're smart, you can lead everyone into your trap

-WOODY- · 06-29-2002, 11:54 AM

Guess I'll have to dress up a nice little pic nic basket with some hidden c4 in it and throw it in the middle of enemy territory and say supper time!
I don't know, I'll have to work out my plans before the demo comes out. lol

Docastillo · 06-29-2002, 12:15 PM

your supper plan would probably fool me...

BrYcE · 06-30-2002, 03:16 AM

I hope it's is only 1-3 shots to kill.

pmcall221 · 06-30-2002, 03:38 AM

Every movie i see is 1-3 shots (more if you really suck at shooting). I think we can all bet on it.

VulcanRaven1088 · 06-30-2002, 03:47 AM

I really hope it stays 1-3 shot kills. I don't want it to be too arcadey, for gods sake it is based on real events. It makes it less fun to have a killfest involving no real skills that separate n00bs from experts. I like OFP, too bad I don't have it...

pmcall221 · 06-30-2002, 04:15 AM

I wont be like Quake where its all about the Frags. This is much more of a military "simulation", even though you can do some pretty heroic things, i.e. wing walking and all that other good stuff from CE

06-28-2002, 09:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Soviet Idealz Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 70	People damage. Is this going to be a one shot (or two or three depending on the hit area) kill game, or is it going to be an unreal frag of doom. I should certainly hope more for the former, although something about a third of the way down the line would be cool too. __________________ And moans of agony Insanity is this place Because there could be no peace A line from my own original poetry Argument in Blood

06-28-2002, 09:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
pmcall221 Sergeant First Class Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In front of computer Posts: 460	I think its more of the depending on where you hit the guy. I have seen from movies guys get hit once and die and a few where they take a hit after hit, the MG seems to take the game, the rifles dont seem do much damage. __________________ If it were easy, everyone would do it. It\'s the hard that makes it great.

06-28-2002, 11:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
-WOODY- First Lieutenant Join Date: May 2002 Location: home of the Indy 500 baby! Posts: 1,692	depends It all depends on who you are as well. Even if all charactors carried the same weapon, not all have the same effect. The Assault kit will probably be the best at up close action and accuracy. The Medic or the Eng. wont have the same effect. I remember reading where it was said that the Eng. isn't very good at "close quarter combat" and the Medic kit isn't very good at long distance accuracy, so it wont be the same for all. __________________ Well whatever the heck it is, I don\'t like it!

06-28-2002, 11:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Soviet Idealz Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 70	I just found out from a preview it is just 1-3 shots to kill, depending on area. (like OFP) __________________ And moans of agony Insanity is this place Because there could be no peace A line from my own original poetry Argument in Blood

06-29-2002, 10:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rammstein Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 17	From what i have seen i pretty much die straight away and i rarely no where im getting shot from. Yes i have an old beta so it might be a bit off but i believe it to be realistic as in war how do you know where your being shot. Also as you would expect 1 shot and ur dead from a tank but i also seemed to get sniped alot!!! ramm __________________ The guy in my picture is dead :)

06-28-2002, 11:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
antiAv Specialist Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 218	WTF you talking about?! The rifle kicked ass, a real mans gun! :P But yea, I personally think/hope that the damage will be alot like MOHAA

06-29-2002, 10:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rammstein Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 17	As someone has said befre i find it simalir to OFP __________________ The guy in my picture is dead :)

06-29-2002, 11:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
-WOODY- First Lieutenant Join Date: May 2002 Location: home of the Indy 500 baby! Posts: 1,692	for pete's sake you gotta be kidding! So if I'm an Engineer and the best weapon I have isn't even any good at close quarter combat, I'm in big trouble. What on earth do they give you then, a cap gun?! __________________ Well whatever the heck it is, I don\'t like it!

06-29-2002, 11:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
Docastillo Warrant Officer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 807	the engineer has some kind of rifle... And you're right, in close quarter battles, the engineer is in trouble. BUT... the engineer has C4 So if you're smart, you can lead everyone into your trap

06-29-2002, 11:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
-WOODY- First Lieutenant Join Date: May 2002 Location: home of the Indy 500 baby! Posts: 1,692	ah well Guess I'll have to dress up a nice little pic nic basket with some hidden c4 in it and throw it in the middle of enemy territory and say supper time! I don't know, I'll have to work out my plans before the demo comes out. lol __________________ Well whatever the heck it is, I don\'t like it!

06-29-2002, 12:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
Docastillo Warrant Officer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 807	your supper plan would probably fool me...

06-30-2002, 03:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
BrYcE Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2	I hope it's is only 1-3 shots to kill.

06-30-2002, 03:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
pmcall221 Sergeant First Class Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In front of computer Posts: 460	Every movie i see is 1-3 shots (more if you really suck at shooting). I think we can all bet on it. __________________ If it were easy, everyone would do it. It\'s the hard that makes it great.

06-30-2002, 03:47 AM	#17 (permalink)
VulcanRaven1088 Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 43	I really hope it stays 1-3 shot kills. I don't want it to be too arcadey, for gods sake it is based on real events. It makes it less fun to have a killfest involving no real skills that separate n00bs from experts. I like OFP, too bad I don't have it... __________________ I can\'t take his money, I can\'t make my own money, I have to work to make money... Why don\'t I just lay down and die?!?

06-30-2002, 04:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
pmcall221 Sergeant First Class Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In front of computer Posts: 460	I wont be like Quake where its all about the Frags. This is much more of a military "simulation", even though you can do some pretty heroic things, i.e. wing walking and all that other good stuff from CE __________________ If it were easy, everyone would do it. It\'s the hard that makes it great.