How to Vote

420 · 06-15-2003, 01:41 AM

This should maybe made sticky cause I am gonna try and make it as easy as possible for anyone to vote a tk'er off.

hit tab while in game and look at # beside the persons name. Now hit the ~ key and type kt #, # being the one beside their name. Everyone who agrees shoud just type in console "kt #" It will say the number in yellow on your screen.

I say kt # cause a teamkick only requires the affected team to vote and you wont need as many votes.

There are tons of other console commands but just wanna concentrate on the important one, ridding your game of team killers.

Hope it helps.

mr. peabody · 06-15-2003, 01:45 AM

hey wow.
is there some site anywhere that i can favorite that has a hole buttload of console commands?

one i use alot is "game.listmaps". it shows lists of maps so you know whats next.

420 · 06-15-2003, 01:54 AM

Yes and its on your HD. In AliasedCommands.con

You can even change the alias to something real easy to type. You could even just type lm in console to listmaps or change it to whatever you want.

rem - Client commands:

alias listplayers game.listplayers
alias players game.listplayers
alias lp game.listplayers
alias listmaps game.listmaps
alias lm game.listmaps
alias forgive game.TKForgive
alias forgivetk game.TKForgive
alias ftk game.TKForgive
alias punish game.TKPunish
alias punishtk game.TKPunish
alias ptk game.TKPunish
alias buddylist game.buddylist
alias suicide game.suicide
alias ignorelist chat.ignorelist
alias textinfo chat.chatinfo

rem - Client 'Toggle' settings:

alias fps console.showfps
alias hud game.usehud
alias oldtext chat.oldChatListStyle

rem - Client Settings

alias name game.changePlayerName
alias textsizes chat.setChatHistory
alias killtext chat.killMessageSize
alias flagtext chat.gameInfoMessageSize
alias chattext chat.chatMessageSize
alias oldtextsize chat.oldChatListHistory

rem - Client Argument commands

alias votemap game.voteMap
alias vm game.voteMap
alias kick game.voteKickPlayer
alias kickteam game.votekickteamplayer
alias kt game.votekickteamplayer
alias addbuddy game.addPlayerToBuddyList
alias buddy game.addPlayerToBuddyList
alias ab game.addPlayerToBuddyList
alias removebuddy game.removeplayerfrombuddylist
alias unbuddy game.removeplayerfrombuddylist
alias rb game.removeplayerfrombuddylist
alias ignore chat.addToIgnoreList
alias unignore chat.removeFromIgnoreList

rem - Admin commands

alias nextmap admin.runnextlevel
alias nm admin.runnextlevel
alias restart admin.restartmap
alias rm admin.restartmap
alias banlist admin.listBannedAddresses
alias clearbans admin.clearbanlist
alias pause admin.togglegamepause
alias unpause admin.togglegamepause

rem - Admin 'Toggle' settings:

alias freecam game.enableFreeCamera
alias tkban admin.banPlayerOnTKKick
alias punishmode admin.TKPunishMode
alias mapvoting admin.enableMapVote
alias kickvoting admin.enableKickPlayerVote
alias teamkickvoting admin.enableKickTeamPlayerVote
alias nosecam admin.allownosecam
alias extviews admin.externalViews
alias autoteam admin.autoBalanceTeam

rem - Admin Settings

alias tkspawndelay admin.spawnDelayPenaltyForTK
alias tklimit admin.nrOfTKToKick
alias remoteconsole admin.enableRemoteConsole
alias remoteadmin admin.enableRemoteAdmin
alias votetime admin.votingTime
alias bantime admin.banTime
alias startdelay admin.delaybeforestartinggame
alias rounddelay admin.roundDelayBeforeStartingGame
alias timelimit admin.timeLimit
alias scorelimit admin.scoreLimit
alias roundlimit admin.setNrOfRounds

rem - Admin argument commands

alias adminkick admin.kickplayer
alias kickplayer admin.kickplayer
alias adminkick admin.kickplayer
alias akick admin.kickplayer
alias ban admin.banplayer
alias banaddress admin.addAddresstoBanList
alias unbanaddress admin.removeAddressFromBanList
alias load admin.changemap
alias map admin.changemap
alias loadmap admin.changemap
alias setnextmap admin.setNextLevel
alias message admin.servermessage
alias speak game.sayall
alias say game.sayall

animehackerboy · 06-15-2003, 02:06 AM

vizor or someone make this a sticky

Bullet jaw · 06-15-2003, 06:49 AM

Shouldn't you type kt# not tk# for a team kick?

420 · 06-15-2003, 07:03 AM

Yep. I was using the phrase tk'er before I wrote that and it stuck. I edited post. Thanks.

spngbhb · 06-15-2003, 09:15 AM

u have some misinformation in your post.

yes u should use kt # to start the vote.

no other players shouldn't use kick # to vote on that vote. they also should use kt #.

kick and kt are two different voting schemes. kick requires 2/3 of the entire server's (both teams) votes to vote someone off.

kt requries 2/3 of just your team's votes.

In nearly all instances you'll want to use kt # to vote players off.

btw, i'll be amazed if this system soaks into enough brains to make it work. while it's easy for smartest 20% of us - the other 80% don't even know how to open the console. unfortunately u need to make a voting system that the dumbest 20% can figure out. not the other way around. cause it's of no use if 80% of the people don't know how to vote.

the only thing the improved ui has going for it is they display the id# on the scoring screen and maybe this will cause folks to inquire about that number and from there, learn how to vote. course then folks have to figure out the difference between the kick and kt commands.

420 · 06-15-2003, 09:59 AM

Another edit

I liked the one RTCW had. Just press f1 or f2 for a yes or no. They can bind f2 f5 for requesting air support, why cant they bind the existing yes and no F keys to also substitute for voting or something.

Cmon dice, throw us a friken bone here. Coming up on a year since release here. Just make it so who wants to start vote uses the console and everyone else uses f keys. I am not a programmer but I know that someone on these boards would do it in a day with the SDK.

/rant

420 · 06-15-2003, 10:03 AM

Right. If you say use kt 16 and someone responds with kick 16. That person just basically started another vote on that person. Is this the case?

[TLB]RIPPER · 06-15-2003, 10:33 AM

If anyone has actually gotten someone successfully booted let me know, no one know hows to do this. Dude talking 80% / 20% has a believer.

thunder_or_fd · 06-16-2003, 08:24 AM

EA/DICE should have a requirement that you pass a booting test before u can plan online. they should have it so the first time you go to play online you go thru a tutorial and they have you do a demonstration of kicking. annoying when someone doesnt know where ` is.

Q · 06-16-2003, 03:48 PM

I also have noticed that people are starting these more, but not voting.

I hopped in a vehicle on Bridge Ruins and took off in a hurry for the flag by the bridge and in doing so I ran over two people that popped out from the hut. I apologized and continued on (nothing you do at that point). One of them started a vote against me, I think they did the "kick #" , because it said something like "1 of 32 need".
I won't vote a player off from the other team unless I witness TKing myself.

English · 06-16-2003, 05:33 PM

Why dont they just do it like they have it in half life? It comes up on the screen and asks you

"Kick Complete_idiot?"

1. Yes
2. No.

Something like that anyway, but you have to press either 1 or 2 to make it go, and so every1 has to vote. Simple and effective. What do we get from dice? Complicated and hopeless. Sure, its easier, and i have seen it being used alot now we have the 1.4 patch. But it could be made better for the people who have never heard of the console.

*Edited twice because im a compelete idiot*

urseus · 06-18-2003, 04:21 AM

^^^Yep, boggles my mind as well. I mean, once somone comes up with a way that works and is perfect, why dont game makers just adopt it.

Its like in counterstrike some local servers had that mod, where who you killed and how much damage you got them and all these other stats came up, as well as a voice telling you how much time left on the bomb. Of corse, it was taken off, as people are complaining bitches. Game comunitys frustrate me to no end, really really pisses me off. This place is cool, but its not the real comunity. People are so selfish and spitefull, and everything is just an alpha male competition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420

Cool shit

Thankyou sir.

*edit - Is there anyway to change the text colouring back to the way it was in the last patch.

EA_One_Eye, what the hell were you guys thinking changing that?

Bandwidth · 06-18-2003, 07:36 AM

But looking at this from another direction already even at the current substandard way the voting is implemented. At least once an hour of bf playing, i'm annoyed by someone who does know the vote commands. You know the person who wont stop starting votes. over and over, kick this person, or more common, change map, for the entire map just because one selfish bugger doesnt like the current map......twich twich....

Still even sending a Y or N in main chat like vietcong would work obviously its something Dice hasnt felt much pressure to look into. Although limiting individuals to starting 1 vote per 5min would be nice.

420 · 06-18-2003, 02:36 PM

Hey urseus, where did you get that quote from

Phil · 06-18-2003, 04:36 PM

in the console commands what are the punish and forgive supposed to do?

urseus · 06-18-2003, 11:37 PM

Im asuming they do what they do in other games. When somone tks you, you type forgive and they dont lose a point. If you know it was intentional, you type punish which probably kills them and gives them a huge respawn time.

Once i accidently bombed a flag with tonnes of my team mates. I didnt respawn for ages.

Phil · 06-19-2003, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Im asuming they do what they do in other games. When somone tks you, you type forgive and they dont lose a point. If you know it was intentional, you type punish which probably kills them and gives them a huge respawn time.

cool thanks

NetWarriorDan · 06-25-2003, 05:49 PM

Can anyone confirm that?

06-15-2003, 01:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	How to Vote This should maybe made sticky cause I am gonna try and make it as easy as possible for anyone to vote a tk'er off. hit tab while in game and look at # beside the persons name. Now hit the ~ key and type kt #, # being the one beside their name. Everyone who agrees shoud just type in console "kt #" It will say the number in yellow on your screen. I say kt # cause a teamkick only requires the affected team to vote and you wont need as many votes. There are tons of other console commands but just wanna concentrate on the important one, ridding your game of team killers. Hope it helps. __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

06-15-2003, 01:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	Yes and its on your HD. In AliasedCommands.con You can even change the alias to something real easy to type. You could even just type lm in console to listmaps or change it to whatever you want. rem - Client commands: alias listplayers game.listplayers alias players game.listplayers alias lp game.listplayers alias listmaps game.listmaps alias lm game.listmaps alias forgive game.TKForgive alias forgivetk game.TKForgive alias ftk game.TKForgive alias punish game.TKPunish alias punishtk game.TKPunish alias ptk game.TKPunish alias buddylist game.buddylist alias suicide game.suicide alias ignorelist chat.ignorelist alias textinfo chat.chatinfo rem - Client 'Toggle' settings: alias fps console.showfps alias hud game.usehud alias oldtext chat.oldChatListStyle rem - Client Settings alias name game.changePlayerName alias textsizes chat.setChatHistory alias killtext chat.killMessageSize alias flagtext chat.gameInfoMessageSize alias chattext chat.chatMessageSize alias oldtextsize chat.oldChatListHistory rem - Client Argument commands alias votemap game.voteMap alias vm game.voteMap alias kick game.voteKickPlayer alias kickteam game.votekickteamplayer alias kt game.votekickteamplayer alias addbuddy game.addPlayerToBuddyList alias buddy game.addPlayerToBuddyList alias ab game.addPlayerToBuddyList alias removebuddy game.removeplayerfrombuddylist alias unbuddy game.removeplayerfrombuddylist alias rb game.removeplayerfrombuddylist alias ignore chat.addToIgnoreList alias unignore chat.removeFromIgnoreList rem - Admin commands alias nextmap admin.runnextlevel alias nm admin.runnextlevel alias restart admin.restartmap alias rm admin.restartmap alias banlist admin.listBannedAddresses alias clearbans admin.clearbanlist alias pause admin.togglegamepause alias unpause admin.togglegamepause rem - Admin 'Toggle' settings: alias freecam game.enableFreeCamera alias tkban admin.banPlayerOnTKKick alias punishmode admin.TKPunishMode alias mapvoting admin.enableMapVote alias kickvoting admin.enableKickPlayerVote alias teamkickvoting admin.enableKickTeamPlayerVote alias nosecam admin.allownosecam alias extviews admin.externalViews alias autoteam admin.autoBalanceTeam rem - Admin Settings alias tkspawndelay admin.spawnDelayPenaltyForTK alias tklimit admin.nrOfTKToKick alias remoteconsole admin.enableRemoteConsole alias remoteadmin admin.enableRemoteAdmin alias votetime admin.votingTime alias bantime admin.banTime alias startdelay admin.delaybeforestartinggame alias rounddelay admin.roundDelayBeforeStartingGame alias timelimit admin.timeLimit alias scorelimit admin.scoreLimit alias roundlimit admin.setNrOfRounds rem - Admin argument commands alias adminkick admin.kickplayer alias kickplayer admin.kickplayer alias adminkick admin.kickplayer alias akick admin.kickplayer alias ban admin.banplayer alias banaddress admin.addAddresstoBanList alias unbanaddress admin.removeAddressFromBanList alias load admin.changemap alias map admin.changemap alias loadmap admin.changemap alias setnextmap admin.setNextLevel alias message admin.servermessage alias speak game.sayall alias say game.sayall __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

06-15-2003, 07:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	Yep. I was using the phrase tk'er before I wrote that and it stuck. I edited post. Thanks. __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

06-15-2003, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	Another edit I liked the one RTCW had. Just press f1 or f2 for a yes or no. They can bind f2 f5 for requesting air support, why cant they bind the existing yes and no F keys to also substitute for voting or something. Cmon dice, throw us a friken bone here. Coming up on a year since release here. Just make it so who wants to start vote uses the console and everyone else uses f keys. I am not a programmer but I know that someone on these boards would do it in a day with the SDK. /rant __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

06-15-2003, 10:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	Right. If you say use kt 16 and someone responds with kick 16. That person just basically started another vote on that person. Is this the case? __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

06-15-2003, 01:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
mr. peabody Warrant Officer First Class Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 874	hey wow. is there some site anywhere that i can favorite that has a hole buttload of console commands? one i use alot is "game.listmaps". it shows lists of maps so you know whats next.

06-15-2003, 02:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
animehackerboy Command Sergeant Major Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 744	vizor or someone make this a sticky

06-15-2003, 06:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bullet jaw Private Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 34	Shouldn't you type kt# not tk# for a team kick?

06-15-2003, 09:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
spngbhb Private Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 14	u have some misinformation in your post. yes u should use kt # to start the vote. no other players shouldn't use kick # to vote on that vote. they also should use kt #. kick and kt are two different voting schemes. kick requires 2/3 of the entire server's (both teams) votes to vote someone off. kt requries 2/3 of just your team's votes. In nearly all instances you'll want to use kt # to vote players off. btw, i'll be amazed if this system soaks into enough brains to make it work. while it's easy for smartest 20% of us - the other 80% don't even know how to open the console. unfortunately u need to make a voting system that the dumbest 20% can figure out. not the other way around. cause it's of no use if 80% of the people don't know how to vote. the only thing the improved ui has going for it is they display the id# on the scoring screen and maybe this will cause folks to inquire about that number and from there, learn how to vote. course then folks have to figure out the difference between the kick and kt commands.

06-15-2003, 10:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
[TLB]RIPPER Private Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4	If anyone has actually gotten someone successfully booted let me know, no one know hows to do this. Dude talking 80% / 20% has a believer. __________________

06-16-2003, 08:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
thunder_or_fd Master Sergeant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 525	EA/DICE should have a requirement that you pass a booting test before u can plan online. they should have it so the first time you go to play online you go thru a tutorial and they have you do a demonstration of kicking. annoying when someone doesnt know where ` is.

06-16-2003, 03:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Q Corporal Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 177	I also have noticed that people are starting these more, but not voting. I hopped in a vehicle on Bridge Ruins and took off in a hurry for the flag by the bridge and in doing so I ran over two people that popped out from the hut. I apologized and continued on (nothing you do at that point). One of them started a vote against me, I think they did the "kick #" , because it said something like "1 of 32 need". I won't vote a player off from the other team unless I witness TKing myself. __________________ . . Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.

06-16-2003, 05:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
English First Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 1,681	Why dont they just do it like they have it in half life? It comes up on the screen and asks you "Kick Complete_idiot?" 1. Yes 2. No. Something like that anyway, but you have to press either 1 or 2 to make it go, and so every1 has to vote. Simple and effective. What do we get from dice? Complicated and hopeless. Sure, its easier, and i have seen it being used alot now we have the 1.4 patch. But it could be made better for the people who have never heard of the console. Edited twice because im a compelete idiot

06-18-2003, 07:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
Bandwidth Staff Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 262	But looking at this from another direction already even at the current substandard way the voting is implemented. At least once an hour of bf playing, i'm annoyed by someone who does know the vote commands. You know the person who wont stop starting votes. over and over, kick this person, or more common, change map, for the entire map just because one selfish bugger doesnt like the current map......twich twich.... Still even sending a Y or N in main chat like vietcong would work obviously its something Dice hasnt felt much pressure to look into. Although limiting individuals to starting 1 vote per 5min would be nice.

06-18-2003, 02:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	Hey urseus, where did you get that quote from __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

06-18-2003, 04:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
Phil Private Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 52	in the console commands what are the punish and forgive supposed to do? __________________ \"Trespassers will be shot; survivors will be shot again\"-GTAVC

06-18-2003, 11:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
urseus Colonel Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 6,073	Im asuming they do what they do in other games. When somone tks you, you type forgive and they dont lose a point. If you know it was intentional, you type punish which probably kills them and gives them a huge respawn time. Once i accidently bombed a flag with tonnes of my team mates. I didnt respawn for ages. __________________

06-25-2003, 05:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
NetWarriorDan Private Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	Can anyone confirm that?