M1

Hank Scorpio · 06-08-2002, 04:25 AM

is there gonna be an m1 in this game...all reports and sites i have seen dont show it....it was a beautiful gun and any ww2 game shouldnt leave out THE RIFLE THAT WON THE WAR...it is an injustice to the 65% of americans who won the war with that gun.

Jakal · 06-08-2002, 12:58 PM

Hmm... im noit a weapon specialist, but i think the engineer has one, yeah

Hank Scorpio · 06-08-2002, 10:31 PM

excellent!!! because you all must agree that gun should be in the game someway or another

JacKLeFtToWn · 06-10-2002, 03:08 AM

Yea...im almost 100% postitive they will have that weapon because that was the main weapon used in the war for Americans...if they dont have the M1 Garande...im not sure ill play the game

Thana · 06-10-2002, 03:20 PM

He's refering to either the m1 garand or the m1 carabine.
As far as I know it won't be in. All the rifles I've seen in BF were bolt action ones.

Jakal · 06-10-2002, 04:51 PM

Hum... coudl someone post a picture of that rifle? as i said im not a specialist, but when i see a photo im sure i will be able to find it (or not) in the 1 hour video we recorded at Dice and tell you if its really in or not...

pmcall221 · 06-17-2002, 03:14 AM

From what I heard they left out the M1 rifle because it was semi automatic and the they said the Japs or maybe it was the russians who only had bolt actions and they did not want one to have an unfair advantage.

Thana · 06-17-2002, 10:55 AM

True, the M1 is NOT in

TNT · 07-12-2002, 05:10 PM

YES! I LOVE BOLT-ACTIONS! BE AFRAID OF ME NOW

SUPERNOVA3422 · 07-15-2002, 02:52 AM

jackel the engineer has a high powered rifle that can kill in one shot =>

SUPERNOVA3422 · 07-15-2002, 02:53 AM

jackel the engineer has a high powered rifle that can kill in one shot =>

pmcall221 · 07-15-2002, 06:05 AM

Is there an echo in this thread or is it just me?

TNT · 07-15-2002, 08:10 AM

lol pmcall..

Ermm, I guess the American Rifle is Springfield 03 then?

Pred@tor · 07-15-2002, 10:56 AM

Engineers kick ass yeah whoo :!:

chippie1991 · 07-15-2002, 06:04 PM

All Allied Engineers use Enfield .303 Rifes.

Duke121005 · 07-15-2002, 06:58 PM

the m1 isn't that good of a gun, it's not that powerful, not that accurate, not that much anything, so what if it's a semi-automatic. Now the Mauser 98k, that's a good gun. Has everything the m1 doesn't. See rifles are for medium and long range combat, if your fighting close in use a thompson, or bar, or any number of smg's, at medium and long range i want a gun thats accurate, and powerful, kill someone with one shot to the torso. Something interesting though, you wouldn't believe how much they underestimate the sound a rifle makes when it fies it the movies. I've shot a mauser and i must say i had earplugs and it was still deafening. I also wore a very heavy winter coat and it still had enough kick that it hurt. Thinking what a rifle sounds like, im not sure if my eardrums could survive hearing a tank cannon fire

PzGr. Metzger · 07-19-2002, 11:42 PM

According to the list the allies get the Enfield Mk. 4 in .303... they should however have the Garand, it was standard issue for U.S. troops.... Probably evening playing field by giving both side bolt-action rifles

-PaRiAh- · 07-19-2002, 11:51 PM

[quote="Duke121005"]the m1 isn't that good of a gun, it's not that powerful, not that accurate, not that much anything, so what if it's a semi-automatic. Now the Mauser 98k, that's a good gun. Has everything the m1 doesn't. quote]

Are you on crack? The M1 Garand was not to be issued if it could not hit a target that was 200 meters away. The M1 Garand was also proven to hit a quarter from 100 yards away. The M1 is THE best implement of war back in the day. Please refrain from saying somthing you know nothing about. And what you said about the BAR, It was used as an Machine Gun in WWI. It had a bipod and everything. The BAR was made specically for medium to long range shots.

Duke121005 · 07-20-2002, 12:25 AM

listen pal i do know a lot about m1's, i've shot them, i've shot comparable bolt actions, the bolt actions ARE more accurate, testament to why they almost ALWAYS used bolts for sniper rifles, and DEFINITELY more powerful, the mauser uses 8mm, the m1 ammo is smaller than that and has a smaller shell casing, i'm not just some idiot making this all up, the only advantage the m1 had was rate of fire, and it may be accurate to you, but it doesn't compare with bolt actions

Duke121005 · 07-20-2002, 12:35 AM

and about bar's? well you obviously have never shot one, although neither have i, but it seems that the thought of RECOIL never entered your head, you cannot fire a machine gun accurately at long range, even an m16, while firing at an automatic rate, maybe with decent accuracy at medium range, but a bar, unless single shot, at long range? not a smart thing, i personally think the worse thing about the bar, normally a great gun, was it's 20 round clip, definitely sub standard for a machine gun, i'm not saying the m1 wasn't used well in world war 2, i'm just saying for accurate powerful shots, which i prefer, you should take a bolt, if you want to be able to shoot fast, the m1 is much better, especially because it has admirable if not excellent accuracy and power at long and medium ranges, at close range, when you need to fire faster, it's even better, but for those of us who like a practical gurantee of a kill with a chest shot, the bolt, especially the mauser, is the way to go. honestly, the germans had better everything, better guns, if you like bolts, better tanks (please don't deny it, the sherman was a wimp, even the battlefield 1942 faq reveals it, it was just fast), better trained troops (please don't deny that, russians were said, french were the biggest wimps ever, english and americans were pretty good, as were people like the polish etc.) i personally think onpar or better generals (i think rommel had to be the best general of the war), some might say better pilots, i'm not necessarily agreeing, the only thing of theirs that sucked, was hitler, and their navy

, oh yah forgot to mention great subs, the fact is from the holy roman empire, onwards, germany has always had the most effective army ever, except for america, who was probably onpar with most stuff, and way ahead in supply, which was germany's downfall, so please before you call other people unknowledgeable idiots, think a little

06-08-2002, 04:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hank Scorpio Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Over your body, picking my .50 caliber slug out of your head. Posts: 20	M1 is there gonna be an m1 in this game...all reports and sites i have seen dont show it....it was a beautiful gun and any ww2 game shouldnt leave out THE RIFLE THAT WON THE WAR...it is an injustice to the 65% of americans who won the war with that gun. __________________ It takes a great leader to lead a nation out of the depression and win a world war. But it takes a GOD to convince a nation to murder 6 million people... -Unknown.

06-08-2002, 12:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jakal Chief Warrant Officer First Class Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Behind you, with a knife Posts: 992	Hmm... im noit a weapon specialist, but i think the engineer has one, yeah __________________ <center></center>

06-08-2002, 10:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hank Scorpio Private Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Over your body, picking my .50 caliber slug out of your head. Posts: 20	excellent!!! because you all must agree that gun should be in the game someway or another __________________ It takes a great leader to lead a nation out of the depression and win a world war. But it takes a GOD to convince a nation to murder 6 million people... -Unknown.

06-10-2002, 03:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
JacKLeFtToWn Private Join Date: May 2002 Location: In that P-51 about to cut you in half Posts: 89	Yea...im almost 100% postitive they will have that weapon because that was the main weapon used in the war for Americans...if they dont have the M1 Garande...im not sure ill play the game __________________ Spray and pray!!!! (¯`·.¸¸. - JackLeFtToWn -.¸¸.·´¯)

06-10-2002, 03:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Thana Private Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 22	He's refering to either the m1 garand or the m1 carabine. As far as I know it won't be in. All the rifles I've seen in BF were bolt action ones. __________________ If I should die tomorrow I will have no regrets. I did what I wanted to do. You can\'t expect more from life

06-10-2002, 04:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jakal Chief Warrant Officer First Class Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Behind you, with a knife Posts: 992	Hum... coudl someone post a picture of that rifle? as i said im not a specialist, but when i see a photo im sure i will be able to find it (or not) in the 1 hour video we recorded at Dice and tell you if its really in or not... __________________ <center></center>

06-17-2002, 03:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
pmcall221 Sergeant First Class Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In front of computer Posts: 460	From what I heard they left out the M1 rifle because it was semi automatic and the they said the Japs or maybe it was the russians who only had bolt actions and they did not want one to have an unfair advantage. __________________ If it were easy, everyone would do it. It\'s the hard that makes it great.

06-17-2002, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Thana Private Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 22	True, the M1 is NOT in __________________ If I should die tomorrow I will have no regrets. I did what I wanted to do. You can\'t expect more from life

07-12-2002, 05:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
TNT Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The land of Thousands of Lakes Posts: 1,350	YES! I LOVE BOLT-ACTIONS! BE AFRAID OF ME NOW __________________ ~Remember drink yer milk kids!

07-15-2002, 02:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
SUPERNOVA3422 Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 71	jackel the engineer has a high powered rifle that can kill in one shot =>

07-15-2002, 02:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
SUPERNOVA3422 Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 71	jackel the engineer has a high powered rifle that can kill in one shot =>

07-15-2002, 06:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
pmcall221 Sergeant First Class Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In front of computer Posts: 460	Is there an echo in this thread or is it just me? __________________ If it were easy, everyone would do it. It\'s the hard that makes it great.

07-15-2002, 08:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
TNT Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The land of Thousands of Lakes Posts: 1,350	lol pmcall.. Ermm, I guess the American Rifle is Springfield 03 then? __________________ ~Remember drink yer milk kids!

07-15-2002, 10:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Pred@tor Staff Sergeant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Somwhere over the rainbow Posts: 260	Engineers kick ass yeah whoo :!:

07-15-2002, 06:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
chippie1991 Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ennngggerrllannnddd - Canvey Island Posts: 70	Eng All Allied Engineers use Enfield .303 Rifes.

07-15-2002, 06:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Duke121005 Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 14	m1? who cares the m1 isn't that good of a gun, it's not that powerful, not that accurate, not that much anything, so what if it's a semi-automatic. Now the Mauser 98k, that's a good gun. Has everything the m1 doesn't. See rifles are for medium and long range combat, if your fighting close in use a thompson, or bar, or any number of smg's, at medium and long range i want a gun thats accurate, and powerful, kill someone with one shot to the torso. Something interesting though, you wouldn't believe how much they underestimate the sound a rifle makes when it fies it the movies. I've shot a mauser and i must say i had earplugs and it was still deafening. I also wore a very heavy winter coat and it still had enough kick that it hurt. Thinking what a rifle sounds like, im not sure if my eardrums could survive hearing a tank cannon fire

07-19-2002, 11:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
PzGr. Metzger Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 78	According to the list the allies get the Enfield Mk. 4 in .303... they should however have the Garand, it was standard issue for U.S. troops.... Probably evening playing field by giving both side bolt-action rifles __________________ There is no pain, only dishonor.

07-19-2002, 11:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
-PaRiAh- Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 18	Re: m1? who cares [quote="Duke121005"]the m1 isn't that good of a gun, it's not that powerful, not that accurate, not that much anything, so what if it's a semi-automatic. Now the Mauser 98k, that's a good gun. Has everything the m1 doesn't. quote] Are you on crack? The M1 Garand was not to be issued if it could not hit a target that was 200 meters away. The M1 Garand was also proven to hit a quarter from 100 yards away. The M1 is THE best implement of war back in the day. Please refrain from saying somthing you know nothing about. And what you said about the BAR, It was used as an Machine Gun in WWI. It had a bipod and everything. The BAR was made specically for medium to long range shots.

07-20-2002, 12:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
Duke121005 Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 14	listen pal i do know a lot about m1's, i've shot them, i've shot comparable bolt actions, the bolt actions ARE more accurate, testament to why they almost ALWAYS used bolts for sniper rifles, and DEFINITELY more powerful, the mauser uses 8mm, the m1 ammo is smaller than that and has a smaller shell casing, i'm not just some idiot making this all up, the only advantage the m1 had was rate of fire, and it may be accurate to you, but it doesn't compare with bolt actions

07-20-2002, 12:35 AM	#20 (permalink)
Duke121005 Private Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 14	and about bar's? well you obviously have never shot one, although neither have i, but it seems that the thought of RECOIL never entered your head, you cannot fire a machine gun accurately at long range, even an m16, while firing at an automatic rate, maybe with decent accuracy at medium range, but a bar, unless single shot, at long range? not a smart thing, i personally think the worse thing about the bar, normally a great gun, was it's 20 round clip, definitely sub standard for a machine gun, i'm not saying the m1 wasn't used well in world war 2, i'm just saying for accurate powerful shots, which i prefer, you should take a bolt, if you want to be able to shoot fast, the m1 is much better, especially because it has admirable if not excellent accuracy and power at long and medium ranges, at close range, when you need to fire faster, it's even better, but for those of us who like a practical gurantee of a kill with a chest shot, the bolt, especially the mauser, is the way to go. honestly, the germans had better everything, better guns, if you like bolts, better tanks (please don't deny it, the sherman was a wimp, even the battlefield 1942 faq reveals it, it was just fast), better trained troops (please don't deny that, russians were said, french were the biggest wimps ever, english and americans were pretty good, as were people like the polish etc.) i personally think onpar or better generals (i think rommel had to be the best general of the war), some might say better pilots, i'm not necessarily agreeing, the only thing of theirs that sucked, was hitler, and their navy , oh yah forgot to mention great subs, the fact is from the holy roman empire, onwards, germany has always had the most effective army ever, except for america, who was probably onpar with most stuff, and way ahead in supply, which was germany's downfall, so please before you call other people unknowledgeable idiots, think a little