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Old 09-18-2002, 04:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default I'm about to take the game back -

Honestly - I've had it with Battlefield. This is getting ridiculous. Ever since installing this game, I've had nothing but trouble. Whether it's a crash on the computer, and a freeze, or if the damn textures wont go beyond the "shitty" setting - the game simply refuses to run under the recommended settings.

You SHOULDN'T have to tweak a game THIS much to get it to work. I'm glad that alot of you have managed to solve your problems, but I see alot of us with good computers, (1.4mhz, 256ram, Geforce2 mx 400/400, ASUS MB, newest sound AND video drivers) getting stuck in the mud with this game and it's a little more than frustrating. It's insulting. I paid 45 dollars for this thing. Not 45 dollars to get 30 minutes of gameplay and then have to load back to desktop. 45 dollars to get a gaming experience promised by the minimum and recommended system settings.

I IMMENSELY hope the development team is enjoying it's time on vacation, I really do. They've certainly left their home in good condition and have NOTHING to worry about once returning.

I especially like the IGN interview with their "mine all mine" attitude regarding modding. Yea, VALVE and SIERRA have 50,000 players on Half Life at any given time because they hoarded their code.

If this seems like a rant - it is.
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Old 09-18-2002, 04:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have exactly the same system as you, but with a gforce 4/

The game runs great. I run it on 1024. I make it a point to look for servers that have 4ish players, and have a maximum of 20, 32 at the most. A system like yours a mine cant handle anything bigger than that at the moment, untill they patch it. But i love playing on the servers with only 6ish people. You get mad tank battles, rather than frustration of having to go it on foot all the time and people stealing your stuff. Id say hang onto it, and chose your servers more carfully. On gamespy you can look at the server processor speed, try for some 2 gig ones.
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Old 09-18-2002, 04:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Here's my problem - why rush the game out? Why get a reputation for shoddy work. I understand they built the game from scratch, but why not hang back on that demo and let the community tell you whats the problem? I mean this is really pissing me off. And it CANT be the number of players I have in the server. It cant be. I've been on serers with 10 people and gotten the good old freeze. I've set the settings down to dirty poor and cant make out anything to have an enjoyable gaming experience. Reading the reviews on this thing made me aware that I'd have to update my drivers - but to then tell folks that you need to hop into folders and edit command lines and all as if you're more than familiar with this sort of thing is a joke. A huge one.

It's hard not to relate to the "negative" folks out there who have a bad feeling on this game. I was waiting for this game for SOOOO long with the rest of you. And now to find out that I may not be able to play it the way it was promised is a joke.

And dont get me started on the inabilit to choose between full-screen or not.
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Old 09-18-2002, 04:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default My 2 cents.

I'm going to take the game back also.

It runs fine, but I can't handle the bugs. If I can spot so many bugs, why can't the beta team spot them. I'm so tired of PC games it's not even funny and I refuse to buy a console. I figure this is the dark ages of computer gaming. One day they will actually take thier time, and publishers will not set so many deadlines. If they can make console games run with almost no bugs, why can't computers be the same. Windows sucks. Linux sucks. Screw EA. Thier website sucks too and so do thier games. They try to "hide" any game they have over 2 years old. Navagating thier support page is about at worthless as the company itself.

The best part of this game is the intro. To bad the game is nothing like that.
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Old 09-18-2002, 04:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Full screen what?


All i know is, i play much much much better on servers with no more than 10 people. And thats like, singleplayer quality.

Im happy to play like that untill they work everything out. The thing is here, people are comparing this game to things like CS and DOD which are other successful multiplayer games. Valve have had almost 4 years of patching to get the game to what it is now. If you gave DICE 4 years to work on a single game, im pretty sure they would have a 56ker running a 64 man map with a ping of 10 :P
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Do not get me wrong. I want to like this game. I DO like this game. The demo - after some tweaking - worked for me and I had a blast on WAKE ISLAND. But this is too much for me. I mean the demo worked BETTER for me. Listen to that...the DEMO...worked BETTER...than the RETAIL release. I understand that patches will come along and yada yada yada. But this is nuts. We shouldnt have to pay 50 bucks to beta test this damn thing.

DICE and EA saw the excitement folks had playing the demo, and struck while the iron was hot.

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Dunno what the term is but if you push ALT-ENTER on most game u get the game to run in a window, and not full screen. Not so here.
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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why would you want to do that though?

It says in the manual that it doesnt suport alt tabbing either. When i play this game i am playing this game, i dont go do something else on my computer while im doing it.

When the load times for each map are on i go for a smoke or some TV or something. Im thinking that the next patch for this game will make things alot better.

This is becuase they have a final build that people are activly out there testing and giving them feedback on, on the Ea forums. This is how all games evolve. Im aware that a final game should be completly playable or not released at all, and i cant tell you the frustration ive had with this game. But i stick with it, because i love the freedom it gives you, and the rolling terain, and those little times when your fighting another guy on a desert plain in a tank. Dont take it back, cause what happens when its made better and its all the rage, youll have to go out and buy it again., and all youve done is traded it in for another gae you probably never wanted. Id say hang onto it. Even if i had no internet connection at all, id still keep it just for a single player, which i think is pretty good too.
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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well, unfortuantly, have you ever known a game with 0 bugs, *yes i know this game has some, if not alot of bugs* or a game with which NO ONE has problems? And then there are always those that can't get the game to work at all, no matter what they do? often times it is NOT the developer's fault, but some reg fuxed , or a faulty file. So I am kind of discouraged by your problems, and hope that maybe it will start working. I find it unfortuante for the few that must return, do to the fact that their copy isn't working well
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Sorry that you guys are taking it back. I dont like the load times, the framerates, or the shoddy Netcode, but Im going to give Dice/EA a chance to fix this stuff. I think you should consider that, too.
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:12 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've been on serers with 10 people and gotten the good old freeze. I've set the settings down to dirty poor and cant make out anything to have an enjoyable gaming experience.
It might be the amount of memory you have in combination with your swap file size and your video card. I once had a GEForce2 MX 400 and I couldn't imagine playing this game with that card. Also, I upped my memory 128 M from 256 to 384 and increase my swap file to 500 MB minimum and it make a HUGE difference.

Just some thoughts...
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Old 09-18-2002, 05:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I wish it were my computer or something I was doing -

A brief history -

Got the demo. Game froze. Found out I needed the newest, most stable vid drivers. Did that. Demo ran fine.

Got the game. Game froze. Got the vid drivers. Got the sound drivers. Game froze. Turned settings down. Game played fine. Hopped on again. Cant go 15 minutes without game freezing and having to manually reboot.

That's what happens.

My frustration isn't that there are bugs. MOH had bugs.

But I could STILL play MOH and not worry about that till the next patch. That's the HUGE difference. For a large chunk of gamers who are far from computer illiterate, BF42 is wreaking havoc on our systems. I want to say "sure I'll give these guys time to work on ANOTHER patch' - but come on. They're on vacation so we need to work on that, and they've basically said we're going to keep a tight grip on our code cause well, its ours and you (the mod community) cant have it and make it better than we did.

And I am more than discouraged by my problems. I love this game. The demo is awesome. Flying in a plane with a mate is awesome. Getting cheeky and crashing the plane into another plane is awesome taking your mate with you.

But I refuse to have 15 minutes of fame. And I think I can get my money back on a game that wont run for me.
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runs great for me. check your settings.
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increase my swap file to 500 MB minimum and it make a HUGE difference.

Just some thoughts...

How do you do this in XP?


or how do i check my swapfile space, i have the feeling my computer isnt using all thats available.
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the closest problem that I can see, is possibly the game heating ur cpu core too high... but that is just hardware wise.
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No Idea what a memory leak is. And I've said the settings are on low, with resolution at 800 x 600.

i cant see that its the cpu cause I can hop on MOH no problem.
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What type of ram (DDR?) and what brand? (Crucial? some generic crap?)
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How do you do this in XP?

or how do i check my swapfile space, i have the feeling my computer isnt using all thats available.
Go to your "Control Panel", "System" icon, and then it will be under the "Advanced" Tab and then "Performance Settings" and then "Change" virtual memory.

I actually use Windows2000 Professional, but I've set it on a friends computer. I had to change his control panel from the default XP view to the traditional view in order to find the "System" icon. You might have to do the same. But once you're in the "Performance Settings" area you will see an option to "Change" virtual memory. This is were you can modify your swap file settings.

Hope this helps.
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Well Im glad I havent bought it yet.

I found the demo to be a lot of fun even with all its bugs. Of course I was hoping many of these bugs would be corrected before release. Especially the glaring ones (i.e. all sorts of lag in a game that relies on the multiplayer portion to sell).

And why are they on vacation already? 365 days in a year and they decide to take two weeks on the day of release?! I would think they would be working to ensure a smooth release. You know, so nobody badmouths the game to the point where people arent buying it? I mean it has yet to be released in Europe.

But I guess I am in the minority. I usually prefer stuff to work before I buy it. Seems everyone and their neighbor went out and bought the game already. I hope for their sake the game is patched to near perfection. They could turn their back now and many people would be screwed. Developers will never learn unless we learn to hit em in the billfold where it counts.

So I'll be waiting for the next patch before I make my purchase.
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No Idea what a memory leak is. And I've said the settings are on low, with resolution at 800 x 600.

i cant see that its the cpu cause I can hop on MOH no problem.
Have you overclocked your memory or CPU? This game obviously puts a lot of strain on the memory and CPU. That extra strain might push an already overclocked CPU over the edge.

Also, make sure your box is getting plenty of ventilation. But freeze ups are almost alway either driver related, memory related, or CPU related. More common driver and memory, less common cpu (unless you overclock).
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