How do you reckon....

n00bcamper · 07-04-2003, 09:13 AM

my newly upgraded pc will run bf?

here's what I bought:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=31 508&rd=1

I have 256 Mb pc133 sdram I'm taking out of my old rig and putting in this one. Also, I'm taking the ATI rage fury maxx 64mb card out of my old rig and putting it in here. so, in a nutshell:

Athlon XP 2100
256Mb SDRAM
Rage Fury Maxx 64Mb video card

It'll arrive in a week or two, and by then I'll have bought bf(In the meantime, I'm honing my skills at the local internet cafe).

I'm going to buy a 512 stick of 2100 ddr and a decent video card when I get the money(I'm a broke college student).

so my question is twofold:

1. How do you reckon the game will run with my current specs?
2. Which should I purchase next, the ram or the video card?

BTW, hello everyone! I've been lurking for a lil' bit, and you all seem like a cool bunch! [/url]

TNT · 07-04-2003, 09:18 AM

I'd go for a nice stick of RAM; I have myself 256 of SDRAM and the loading time is long.

Besides, the whole system suffers from a small RAM when playing BF (you cannot get so good graphics because the FPS will go down). Especially in internet.

With that.. well, I myself get 15-20 fps in combat situations;

650 mhz
GeForce 256 32mb
256 SDRAM

So definately, your system will suffer from the small amount of RAM. I'd say something around 20-30 FPS, with perhaps medium graphics.

JeanFrancois · 07-04-2003, 03:43 PM

The game will run, but as TNT said, don't expect wonders. I would consider a video card before RAM because although it might take you longer to get into the back, the game itself will be much more enjoyable with better graphics and better frames. Then again RAM is fairly cheap.

Up to now I didn't know anyone with a Rage Fury MAXX... Is it just two rage128 cores?

cam · 07-04-2003, 05:14 PM

not to hijack his question, but tell me how u think mine will run *please no flaming my video card, lol i know im an idiot*

2gb ram
Geforce fx 5900 ultra 256mb
P4 3 mhz processor
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - 6.1 sound card
and my OS is gonna be microsoft XP home...

either way its a step up from whati have right now.

s0ljar · 07-04-2003, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam

not to hijack his question, but tell me how u think mine will run *please no flaming my video card, lol i know im an idiot*

2gb ram
Geforce fx 5900 ultra 256mb
P4 3 mhz processor
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - 6.1 sound card
and my OS is gonna be microsoft XP home...

either way its a step up from whati have right now.

Ok... here is my opinion..

You dont need 2gb of ram. That is a waste of money. 1gb of ram is fine. More than that is just a waste... only if you do things with dual processors and you need the reosurces.

Your video card is not bad... why would anyone flame it? Its one of the best cards out now.. but i would definantly choose ATI's card over nVidias. But you made a good choice... dont beat yourself up

Now to your processor... either you made a spelling error (3 ghz) or you have one shitty processor.

Your sound card is good but without 6.1 speakers your a shark outside of water.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well here is my specs.. and i play ever game i own more than ok. ( Planetside, Freelancer, RavenShield, Ut2k3, bf1942(duh))

P4 1.5ghz ( i know its old but it runs perfectly )
786mb RAM
GeForce4 Ti4400 128MB
Shitty sound card 3.1

Yup... it all works fine for me..

The Diceman · 07-04-2003, 06:26 PM

Quote:

2gb ram
Geforce fx 5900 ultra 256mb
P4 3 mhz processor

wow a 3mhz processor, powerful stuff!

Seriously though i hate when people advertise their ub3r rigs in forums. You might have the best shit now, but in a few years people will laugh at that 3D card.

420 · 07-04-2003, 06:33 PM

Bottom line though. Get 512 ram or you will be watching the load screen. When I went from 256 to 512 I couldnt believe how fast it loaded.

Rabbit · 07-04-2003, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420

Bottom line though. Get 512 ram or you will be watching the load screen. When I went from 256 to 512 I couldnt believe how fast it loaded.

Right on the money! That is exactly what I did, go for the memory first. You can get the game running with decent performance with added memory and toning done the visuals until you can purchase a new video card.

Guru Imakuni · 07-05-2003, 01:16 AM

I don't notice much difference in the high and low visuals. I run on medium with a Geforce 2. Low probably looks like crap if the textures are spit out using 3 mhz of power.

Cam, your card isn't so bad. I was even worse and bought the FX 5200 for my other computer. It's honestly side by side to the GeForce 2 in quality. I could have saved $70 by just buying the GeForce 2. That's the last time I buy from Nvidia...

Sarge · 07-05-2003, 11:00 PM

Ram is where its at. I recently lost a stick of 256, fried on me, and Now I'm the last one to load ANY map out there. Half the bases are taken by the time I get in now. I used to be the 2nd or 3rd on the entire map, but not now.

Get Ram, Ram, Ram.

Guru Imakuni · 07-05-2003, 11:51 PM

It depends on your system too. If you're running the minimum requirements then 512 mb of RAM isn't as good as new processor. I've seen some people swear by RAM, others didn't get the expected results. If you've got a good rig, RAM will speed up the load times. If you're running obsolete hardware, RAM should be an improvement in the game, but not by very much at all.

I got a computer from EZBPC too. It's going to take some upgrading before you should even try loading a game...

thunder_or_fd · 07-06-2003, 02:31 AM

i run it just fine on 128 ram (although i definatly need to get some more) its fine except for the first 20-30 secs of the game .. i have to walk around and zoom in jump all that stuff to get the game pumping fast - after that 30 secs or so its fine except maybe 2 or 3 times when it gets about 15 fps in close combat sits (but very rare it does that)

1.0 ghz pIII
32mb geforce2
128 ram
4 gigs virtual memory paging * i suggest with 256 ram u top out ur virt mem *
56gay .. i mean 56k

Guru Imakuni · 07-06-2003, 07:18 PM

thunder_or_fd, I think that just may be because of your graphics card. I get none of that when I use a GeForce 2 with 64mb. Graphics cards have up to 8 times that memory on board these days. I don't think Battlefield was designed for everyone running 256mb cards, but I think when you're running 32mb it is a little low. Geforce 2 is a good card though! Kicks the crap out of my FX.

n00bcamper · 07-07-2003, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanFrancois

I didn't know anyone with a Rage Fury MAXX... Is it just two rage128 cores?

yes, but that's the most I know about it. I bought it 3 years ago, when it was 300 smackers. Come to find out it only uses one core most of the time anyway.

NavalLord · 07-07-2003, 02:40 AM

right now i have
processor: P 3 (god knows how many ghz, probably .0000000000000025)
video card: ATI Radeon 7000 64mb (i run on lowest settings and game runs like crap)
256mb of ram (load times vary between each level)

my new pc is going to be

AMD 3000 processor
video card: Radeon 9800 pro 128mb
512 mb of ram
sound card: Audigy 2 6.1

Bacon · 07-07-2003, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNT

I'd go for a nice stick of RAM; I have myself 256 of SDRAM and the loading time is long.

Besides, the whole system suffers from a small RAM when playing BF (you cannot get so good graphics because the FPS will go down). Especially in internet.

With that.. well, I myself get 15-20 fps in combat situations;

650 mhz
GeForce 256 32mb
256 SDRAM

So definately, your system will suffer from the small amount of RAM. I'd say something around 20-30 FPS, with perhaps medium graphics.

...holy shit...what kind of proccessor is that TNT, cause i just got a third spare computer for my bro, and it was a celeron (boo i know) 650mhz...

Just wonderin if that, will maybe 512mb ram and maybe a GeForce 3 64b vid card, could handle BF1942?

Rugged_1 · 07-07-2003, 04:51 PM

in case anyone cares ill build a budget system for you that wont break the bank (not personally build, but describe) it will play any game including hl2 and d3.

amd xp 2600/333fsb 80.00
epox ep-8rda+ 74.00
2x256 ddr 400 kingston value 70.00
maxtor 20 gb ata 133 50.00
antec 400 watt psu 55.00
cheap ass case 20.00
floppy 4.00
cdrom 15.00
radeon 9500pro 128 MB 130.00

468.00

will last you till dx10, and then will accept and 400 mhz fsb amd athlon xp.

soon, we'll be into hammers, and ddr800, single channel nforce, PCI express, etc. it's stupid to buy UBER machine right now. all the technology is changing in the next 9 months. wait a year and then buy. let them werk out teh bugs.

TNT · 07-08-2003, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNT

I'd go for a nice stick of RAM; I have myself 256 of SDRAM and the loading time is long.

Besides, the whole system suffers from a small RAM when playing BF (you cannot get so good graphics because the FPS will go down). Especially in internet.

With that.. well, I myself get 15-20 fps in combat situations;

650 mhz
GeForce 256 32mb
256 SDRAM

So definately, your system will suffer from the small amount of RAM. I'd say something around 20-30 FPS, with perhaps medium graphics.

...holy shit...what kind of proccessor is that TNT, cause i just got a third spare computer for my bro, and it was a celeron (boo i know) 650mhz...

Just wonderin if that, will maybe 512mb ram and maybe a GeForce 3 64b vid card, could handle BF1942?

The processor is a PIII, bought 3-fkin-years ago.

Actually, I'm getting a new PC today, which has;

AMD 2600+ (2.08 GHz)
ASUS A7N8X Gold Deluxe mobo
Sapphire Radeon 9700
1024mb of DDR 333 RAM (Samsung)
Maxtor 120GB HD
LG 52x CD-RW drive

plus the rest to support dis. In the end, my cpu unit pays 1100 euro + software. Can't wait to try it.

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GeForce3 will run BF, it's not amazing, but you can get some medium graphics with it. However, I would buy a GeForce4 Ti 4400, you can get some very cheap these days. 512mb of RAM is also sufficient to run BF, especially if it is DDR. I think your BF would run well. (if the processor is sufficient)

From the Radeon series, buy 9500 Pro if you want a good mid-price card. Avoid Club 3D cards tho.

9700 Pro is best worth its price from the high-end cards (I chose 9700 because I don't have enough money to buy the Pro model).

TNT · 07-08-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugged_1

in case anyone cares ill build a budget system for you that wont break the bank (not personally build, but describe) it will play any game including hl2 and d3.

amd xp 2600/333fsb 80.00
epox ep-8rda+ 74.00
2x256 ddr 400 kingston value 70.00
maxtor 20 gb ata 133 50.00
antec 400 watt psu 55.00
cheap ass case 20.00
floppy 4.00
cdrom 15.00
radeon 9500pro 128 MB 130.00

468.00

will last you till dx10, and then will accept and 400 mhz fsb amd athlon xp.

soon, we'll be into hammers, and ddr800, single channel nforce, PCI express, etc. it's stupid to buy UBER machine right now. all the technology is changing in the next 9 months. wait a year and then buy. let them werk out teh bugs.

Epox mobos are ok, but I'd go for an ASUS A7N8X; they're the finest ones out there atm, especially the gold model with a soundstorm intergrated sound card.

Kingston memory sucks, if you're going to buy an nForce chipset, don't even think about it. Besides, 333mhz memory would suit that cpu better coz of the processor 333mhz frequency.

The processor doesn't neither have a cooler, if it's a bulk model, and u need to know how to install it + the silver paste.

Rugged_1 · 07-08-2003, 04:40 PM

hahah right... facts

asus is THE worst of the lot. i have an a7n8x-x deluxe. i also have the epox, and the leadtech. go to www.nforcershq.com and go into the forums. look at the IMMENSE amount of sound issues from all makes of asus nforce boards.
asus is marketing hype, and have not been a decent company, or made a decent product since the a7v133. plus that bloated dinosaur you champion is about 150.00 twice the price of the epox that outperforms it. plus, buying a 150.00 mobo when we're two months away from pci express is lame.

ddr400 is better then ddr 333. you can run it at 333 and tighten the timings WAY outperforming any ddr333. the timings on the cheapest stick of ddr400 usually can match the most expensive ddr333's.

corsair and asus have compatibility problems, abit and msi as well. kingston is cheap, guaranteed to work in nforce dual channel mode, and has a lifetime warranty. they have a "hyper-x r.2" model that hits more agressive timings than corsair or geil, and is again... half the price.

the point of my post was to provide a baseline for a great system that wont kill your budget. not to run childlike to the most expensive parts that false marketing hype can spew out in hopes of getting 3 frames ill never see.

07-04-2003, 09:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
n00bcamper Private Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 20	How do you reckon.... my newly upgraded pc will run bf? here's what I bought: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=31 508&rd=1 I have 256 Mb pc133 sdram I'm taking out of my old rig and putting in this one. Also, I'm taking the ATI rage fury maxx 64mb card out of my old rig and putting it in here. so, in a nutshell: Athlon XP 2100 256Mb SDRAM Rage Fury Maxx 64Mb video card It'll arrive in a week or two, and by then I'll have bought bf(In the meantime, I'm honing my skills at the local internet cafe). I'm going to buy a 512 stick of 2100 ddr and a decent video card when I get the money(I'm a broke college student). so my question is twofold: 1. How do you reckon the game will run with my current specs? 2. Which should I purchase next, the ram or the video card? BTW, hello everyone! I've been lurking for a lil' bit, and you all seem like a cool bunch! [/url]

07-04-2003, 09:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
TNT Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The land of Thousands of Lakes Posts: 1,350	I'd go for a nice stick of RAM; I have myself 256 of SDRAM and the loading time is long. Besides, the whole system suffers from a small RAM when playing BF (you cannot get so good graphics because the FPS will go down). Especially in internet. With that.. well, I myself get 15-20 fps in combat situations; 650 mhz GeForce 256 32mb 256 SDRAM So definately, your system will suffer from the small amount of RAM. I'd say something around 20-30 FPS, with perhaps medium graphics. __________________ ~Remember drink yer milk kids!

07-04-2003, 03:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
JeanFrancois Chief Warrant Officer First Class Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,039	The game will run, but as TNT said, don't expect wonders. I would consider a video card before RAM because although it might take you longer to get into the back, the game itself will be much more enjoyable with better graphics and better frames. Then again RAM is fairly cheap. Up to now I didn't know anyone with a Rage Fury MAXX... Is it just two rage128 cores? __________________ Don\'t feed the trolls.

07-04-2003, 06:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
420 General Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,607	Bottom line though. Get 512 ram or you will be watching the load screen. When I went from 256 to 512 I couldnt believe how fast it loaded. __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc, 1989

07-05-2003, 01:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	I don't notice much difference in the high and low visuals. I run on medium with a Geforce 2. Low probably looks like crap if the textures are spit out using 3 mhz of power. Cam, your card isn't so bad. I was even worse and bought the FX 5200 for my other computer. It's honestly side by side to the GeForce 2 in quality. I could have saved $70 by just buying the GeForce 2. That's the last time I buy from Nvidia... __________________

07-04-2003, 05:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
cam First Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 570	not to hijack his question, but tell me how u think mine will run please no flaming my video card, lol i know im an idiot 2gb ram Geforce fx 5900 ultra 256mb P4 3 mhz processor Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - 6.1 sound card and my OS is gonna be microsoft XP home... either way its a step up from whati have right now.

07-05-2003, 11:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sarge Master Warrant Officer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Back in GA, US fooking A Posts: 1,204	Ram is where its at. I recently lost a stick of 256, fried on me, and Now I'm the last one to load ANY map out there. Half the bases are taken by the time I get in now. I used to be the 2nd or 3rd on the entire map, but not now. Get Ram, Ram, Ram.

07-05-2003, 11:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	It depends on your system too. If you're running the minimum requirements then 512 mb of RAM isn't as good as new processor. I've seen some people swear by RAM, others didn't get the expected results. If you've got a good rig, RAM will speed up the load times. If you're running obsolete hardware, RAM should be an improvement in the game, but not by very much at all. I got a computer from EZBPC too. It's going to take some upgrading before you should even try loading a game...

07-06-2003, 02:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
thunder_or_fd Master Sergeant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 525	i run it just fine on 128 ram (although i definatly need to get some more) its fine except for the first 20-30 secs of the game .. i have to walk around and zoom in jump all that stuff to get the game pumping fast - after that 30 secs or so its fine except maybe 2 or 3 times when it gets about 15 fps in close combat sits (but very rare it does that) 1.0 ghz pIII 32mb geforce2 128 ram 4 gigs virtual memory paging * i suggest with 256 ram u top out ur virt mem * 56gay .. i mean 56k __________________

07-06-2003, 07:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Guru Imakuni Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,309	thunder_or_fd, I think that just may be because of your graphics card. I get none of that when I use a GeForce 2 with 64mb. Graphics cards have up to 8 times that memory on board these days. I don't think Battlefield was designed for everyone running 256mb cards, but I think when you're running 32mb it is a little low. Geforce 2 is a good card though! Kicks the crap out of my FX. __________________

07-07-2003, 02:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
NavalLord Forum Moderator Brigadier General Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,149	right now i have processor: P 3 (god knows how many ghz, probably .0000000000000025) video card: ATI Radeon 7000 64mb (i run on lowest settings and game runs like crap) 256mb of ram (load times vary between each level) my new pc is going to be AMD 3000 processor video card: Radeon 9800 pro 128mb 512 mb of ram sound card: Audigy 2 6.1

07-07-2003, 04:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Rugged_1 Sergeant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: people's republic of Kalifornia Posts: 344	in case anyone cares ill build a budget system for you that wont break the bank (not personally build, but describe) it will play any game including hl2 and d3. amd xp 2600/333fsb 80.00 epox ep-8rda+ 74.00 2x256 ddr 400 kingston value 70.00 maxtor 20 gb ata 133 50.00 antec 400 watt psu 55.00 cheap ass case 20.00 floppy 4.00 cdrom 15.00 radeon 9500pro 128 MB 130.00 468.00 will last you till dx10, and then will accept and 400 mhz fsb amd athlon xp. soon, we'll be into hammers, and ddr800, single channel nforce, PCI express, etc. it's stupid to buy UBER machine right now. all the technology is changing in the next 9 months. wait a year and then buy. let them werk out teh bugs. __________________ www.ownij.com

07-08-2003, 04:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
Rugged_1 Sergeant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: people's republic of Kalifornia Posts: 344	hahah right... facts asus is THE worst of the lot. i have an a7n8x-x deluxe. i also have the epox, and the leadtech. go to www.nforcershq.com and go into the forums. look at the IMMENSE amount of sound issues from all makes of asus nforce boards. asus is marketing hype, and have not been a decent company, or made a decent product since the a7v133. plus that bloated dinosaur you champion is about 150.00 twice the price of the epox that outperforms it. plus, buying a 150.00 mobo when we're two months away from pci express is lame. ddr400 is better then ddr 333. you can run it at 333 and tighten the timings WAY outperforming any ddr333. the timings on the cheapest stick of ddr400 usually can match the most expensive ddr333's. corsair and asus have compatibility problems, abit and msi as well. kingston is cheap, guaranteed to work in nforce dual channel mode, and has a lifetime warranty. they have a "hyper-x r.2" model that hits more agressive timings than corsair or geil, and is again... half the price. the point of my post was to provide a baseline for a great system that wont kill your budget. not to run childlike to the most expensive parts that false marketing hype can spew out in hopes of getting 3 frames ill never see. __________________ www.ownij.com