THE REAL SOLUTION!!!

EA should just release an option for admins of public servers to enable and disable team damage. I know that the of BF1942 was to make 'realistic' game, but there is still the fact that some a$$ wipe might get bored or for whatever reason they might decide to tk and do it. So what is this miracle solution u ask? Its simple. EA (or osme one else for that matter) could release an admin mod to disallow team damage. I used to be an admin for Day of Defeat unil my clan [*IK*] the dod divsion split. It was a no team damage server. It would completely solve the problem indefinnently. Of course the downsides would be hunting for a no-teamdamage server. And of course your favortite server might not allow this and so then what...keep playing there and deal with a constant tk until the admin grow sees what he does and bans.. or hunt for a non team damage server. Its not a bad idea but like i mentioned not all servers might use it if something like this is made available and thats just a con....
well thats just my view so oh well if u disagree

sorry about all the miss types im a crappy typist.. i meant to post this as response to the tking article..oooppss..

[Azz [GUN]]

I Play on the EAUK Servers mainly and yesterday, well we were playing on 'El Alamain'

I had been doing good flying around in my plane and in just general only had died 3 times. shot down by enemy AA Once and another time a guy flew in to me.


so an unwary me had taken some damage from some enemy MG Fire and decied to land the plane and repair it, so i lined up with the runway and came in to land was a nice smooth landing and started taxiing towards the hangar i seen a tank sitting at the enterance and one to the right... well then the guy in the entarance came charging towards me and so did the
other guy and they squished me inbetween there panzers delibrately.

I asked what the hell was that for but no response from these 2 strangers.

This was my first experience with team killers as such. or delibrate ones. if someones throwing arty at a bunker or something and a teammates gets to close and died and the guy apolagises for it. i accept it as an accident. but these 2 a guy called: "[`]" and another called "unknown" well they sat around base shooting only there own team. i mean a brit could of walked straight past and they would of let him be... but see one of his own standing still well he got a tank shell right at him and ussaly flung high up in the air.. and died or when a guy went for a plane and they hadnt managed to shoot it yet they ran it off the runway and it blew up. cause these 2 were in tanks we could do nothing about it. at the end I had been killed maby 3 or 4 times by the enemy yet i had around 19 deaths....all of these were down to the team killers and it isnt a if i was standing waiting for a plane...i could of been protecting our flag shooting at a brit and still i would of got a tank shell right at me. and not just me anyone who happened to fall in there line of sight.

This is complete utter shite these people should not be alowed to play. if it was 2 enemy tanks we could hurt them but it wasnt so we were powerless

It was a 50 player game and what could we do. ?
the server had no acitive admin so we couldnt kick them, as if we could get 50 total stragners to vote kick these two morons. we couldnt kill them
so we had to deal with it. try and get away from the base if you could jump in a car and drive but you probably got shot at in that too.

The Solution is having active admins. is says on these servers anyone who cusses or teamkills will be warned then banned...
you could say every swearword you know and no one would blink an eye.
kill everyone on your team on purpose and no one would care.

By the end of the game i was shitting bricks. i felt like smashing these two morons heads togeater sure i could of left the server to another one but why... I was there first and we were having a dammned good game untill these two showed up.

If an active admin was actually doing something then thes people would of been kicked and banned before they managed to kill the same person over 10 times.

These are the best servers around for me. and since they are ran by the games publisher you would expect some kind of active admins.

Im done moaning now.

well i when i was an admin (remembers foundly of 'gagging' problem people such as a guy who is being a racist A$$ then 'slaying' and 'slapping;' them into walls so they couldnt complain ) i was an acctive admin. My theory is that most servers are public and not clan-run. Clan-run servers for ANY game usually have at least one die-hard in the clan with no life that is an active admin for a good portion of time. Unfortunately ther reality of the problem is that most some public servers i dont know how many are run by EA dont have admins..this leads to a neglegince in the enforcement of rules.. my suggestion is to server hunt the biggest pain in the a** ever ... find a good server (ie stable no lag, lots of peopel, good players, nivce competition, ect.) and then stick with it.. but make sure it has an active admin or u might be screwed. Of course thats a lot of servers to hunt through and u never know the new server u find might up and shut dow (like my old clan's server di ) by the way panzer sandwich ill have to try that out at my next lan party when i get bored or some one pisses me off

[A_Silent_Snyper2882]

Whatsthat is right. In most games I play there is no tk, cause the friendly fire setting is turned off. I am soooo tired of tk. You go to take off in a plane and all of a sudden you're shot down. Your riding in you're jeep and some anti-tank guy fires a missle at u. I hope in a patch they have a friendly fire turn off feature

you could make a record of teamkills in a folder accessable by anyone:
____________________________
killed jimbob at 9:09 1/2/03
killed jimbob at 9:10 1/2/03
killed slayerman at 9:15 1/2/03
killed jimbob at 9:15 1/2/03
killed Fs1o4x at 9:25 1/2/03
killed acepilot at 6:27 2/2/03
killed frankie at 6:29 2/2/03
killed acepilot at 6:31 2/2/03
killed acepilot at 6:34 2/2/03
killed acepilot at 6:45 2/2/03
killed jimbob at 6:45 2/2/03
_____________________________

Anyone could access this record and admins could know who to ban.
no admin? this could be solved by an option to kick anyone who killed a certain number of people in a certain amount of time.


"i swear, i didnt do it!"

[Critcal]

what ??

The solution is to become a TKer. It's fun. You'll love it.

[The Rifleman]

I play on a server that begins with -=STD then its got some more letters but I can't remember them. Anyway, it is a FF server but they have it set up so that the server automaticly checks for negative scores and high pings every so often and boots offenders. You may want to check that server out.

[woodburner]

Originally Posted by TKer

The solution is to become a TKer. It's fun. You'll love it.

Does that mean you're not good enough to engage the enemy, so you get your kicks killing your own? Or you're not really interested in playing the game that your parents paid for. I fail to see what fun there is in it. Must be an ego thing. Makes you feel like you can play with the big boys. :/

[TEXAS NIGHTMARE]

the tkers i encounter alot is when Im going for a plane and someone else that cant get there before me shoots me in the back and takes the plane. this REALLY sucks, if im going for a plane and see someone else going for it i back off and let him have it. It sucks to be fighting a war and have to hide from your own teammates.

I only have the demo wake island but there are alot of tkers on the demo servers too.So what do is ask them what the hell the think they are doin,to make sure it wasnt an accident.If i get a response like teamkilling or he stole my plane,tank,etc.Since i play a sniper and i usually defend the air field from the west tower i immedietly turn aroud spot him wait for my shot and take his head off with my rifle.Then i point out that i wont tolerate teamkilling.I usually recieve high praise from my non-Tking teammates.

TKing is a whole different level of enjoyment to the game, at first I didn't care much for, but now its pretty much all that I do. If you guys don't like it don't play the game.

You people can't keep crying just because the world wont go your way and people don't act they way you want them to. I bought this game on my own, I was a very well established player on several servers, and then one day I started running people over with a jeep, the rest is history. Let me just say, all the rage that you guys go to when we do something like this, it really doesn't bug us, we actually get kicks from all the anger and stupid profanity you use. Your threats are mere fuel for our fire, we laugh when we manage to immobilize half the team because they are scared of 1 TKer. If everyone would leave the server when a TKer would come you take his power away and therefor solve the problem,

Also, there is no way to solve the TK problem, because even in FF = off servers I can still waste my team quite easily, I will give you 2 examples, (FF = OFF)

1) on Omaha i will be an Engineer on the axis team and plant exppacks by the MG-42 in the bunkers, then when people stand by (not on the gun) them BOOM! they die, I laugh, the end.

2) Wake (or any other map with an aircraft carrier) I just take the AichiVal and run it across the deck at full speed killing all friendlies in the way.

And of course you can hijack ships and run them off course etc. The poiint is that you can never stop something that people will always find new ways to do. I still play regularly every once and a while, but I feel that TKing is much more fun because I enjoy watching people RAGE!!!

what i do when i run into a TKer is reguard them as an enemy. then i tell my team who the TKer is and then they are TKd themselves... what i hate the most tho, is when you get the plane some newbie wants and they start pounding you with their STG or BAR. now all i fly are the two seaters so if im taking off and they start attacking i can just swich to the rear gun and mow them down...

If you guys don't like it don't play the game.

You people can't keep crying just because the world wont go your way and people don't act they way you want them to.

This is such BS. It's not about getting people trying to control you, it's about TKers ruining the experience for everyone else. So, the world won't go your way, so you do everything you can to screw it up for others? I really don't buy the fact that TKers are just your average, well-adjusted gamer who got a little bored and decided to go to the Dark Side.

This game is about teamwork on the battlefield - theoretically, of course - not anarchy. If you don't like the game as it's intended, then why do you play?

The TK issue is part of the whole "internet anonymity as a societal litmus test" thing - if you can be a faceless, anonymous prick, do you take advantage of that every moment you get, or do you act like a normal person and interact with other people in a way that is not limited to pissing them off just for the F of it?

TKers are bitter, friendless, angry, emotionally-stunted losers who probably live in their mom's basement. I mean, really, if your main thrill in life is deriving pleasure from causing others grief, what does that say about you? At what point in your life did these people just throw up your hands and decide to become an utter social retards?

But hey, you may say, I just happen to be an a-hole in life, that's the way I was raised! Sure, not every TKer is a drooling, awkward social misfit...there certainly are "normal" folks who just happen to be pricks, and I salute them! But again, I can't fathom the mindset that focuses solely on ruining an experience for other people. It's not about saying "it's a free country" and lame excuses, it's about the fact that you are choosing to alienate yourself from a community of people that you could be bonding with, or at least coexisting with.

Hey, why not host your own games where everyone is a TKer? Or, as someone else suggested, go play deathmatch UT or something. How would that ruin your fun, other than you wouldn't be sh*tting all over the experience for dozens of other people? You can't say, "Oh, it's because I love to play BF", because you're not playing BF, you're using BF as a forum to exibit the sophistication and intelligence of a monkey. Though, that's a bit insulting to monkeys, sorry.

I had just read some of these responses (I posted on the 22nd as a guest supporting TK)

So, the world won't go your way, so you do everything you can to screw it up for others? I really don't buy the fact that TKers are just your average, well-adjusted gamer who got a little bored and decided to go to the Dark Side.

That is wishful thinking buddy, I don't do it for the satisfaction of ruining the game for others, I like to see people get angry, and cuss at me and yell and scream, I laugh so hard watching these people go nuts over nothing more than pixels on a monitor. Really think about it, why rage over something as pointless as a video game? Its not like I only love pissing people off, I think its funny that people get pissed over something pointless. I am a normal 19 year old guy, going to college playing BF1942 in my off-time, I am not socially mal-adjusted or abused by my parents or anything like that, I am a normal person, just like most of the rest of the TKing population. I get bored with playing nice, so I just start TKing, its as simple as that.

I play the game the way it was NOT intended, simply because I can, and that is what is fun for me. Its as simple as that, I do it cause I can... I also like the game as it was intended, I play normal very often, but I enjoy TKing as well, so I do that when I don't want to play normal.

Again, I am none of those things you wrote down, and if what I does causes others grief, good, maybe they will learn to lighten up a bit and stop crying about A GAME!!! And what people do to them in a game...

Typically the mindset I am in, about 2 or 3 in the morning, kind of tired, and I laugh hysterically at the dumbest things, thats when I enjoy TKing the most, don't get me wrong, I do it in the afternoon as well, but my typical TK mindset is like pre-exhaustion hilarity that is where I get the biggest enjoyment from.

And for your final point, why not host TKing servers? Well because thats not a true TK, because everyone would realize why the people are there, and thats just too many TKers, I don't play UT because I don't like that games engine, it just isn't as fun, and the people don't get mad there. I do love to play BF, and yes I am playing it, not the way it was intended, but I am still playing the game, whether it is to my own specifications or not. And besides, some monkeys are pretty smart.

[Top-Hat]

Hello, TK'ers are worse than Hitler.

[TNT]

Have you ever thought that you spoil around your WHOLE own team's game? They're players too, and you have no respect for your team. This is applied in virtually everything - You cannot for example play anything if you have another guy annoying you for the whole time. It's like TK's, a real pain in the ass. Go play a FFA game, asses.

[BostonBruiser]

I realize I may spoil a good time for up to a dozen people, but they need to learn to live with it, you can't live your life complaining that someone did something that you didn't like, especially if it is about a game.

I mean what does it say about you if your whole day is ruined by a teammate inside a computer moniter blowing up your planes, I belive it sounds pretty shallow honestly if a game is of such importance.

[TNT]

Games are Games, I think you're keeping me as a some sort of nolife nerd. Wrong answer, numbnut.

If that's so how u said, You spoil my game without spoiling yours. How you can make that righteous?

When I go to play a game, I WANT TO PLAY IT, not to play with stupid n00bs like you.