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04-17-2003, 06:39 PM

HOO RAA, TNT! Well said.

I'd like to add, that those who get such enjoyment out of TKing clearly have SOMETHING wrong. It was mentioned earlier that the anonymity lent by internet play is a steroid for the weak, picked on, mentally ill yahoos who actually get a thrill from TKing (or whatever their own brand of Internet Stupidity happens to be).

Case in point? I'll wager that ANY TKer, the above included, would NEVER willingly stand in front of home plate at a ball game while his teamy tries to beat the cut-off, or goaltend his teamate's shot in basketball. Why? Because after he did it once or twice, he'd get his ass handed to him, and most likely the opposing team would recognize the TKer's actions and join in on the whuppin.

True?

Matt

Lobo{CMG} · 04-17-2003, 06:42 PM

Sorry , the above is from me, forgot to login. Wouldn't want anyone thinking I was trying to dodge culpability for my remarks.

Matt

Corax · 04-17-2003, 09:49 PM

I would like to add something to what TNT said:

A bunch of us actually have a life: family, job and other responsabilities. Not everyone can spend hours online playing their favorite games. So when someone take the little free time he has and joins a game where everyone play it the way it is intended to be, he can actually enjoy his free time and relax. When some socially challenged with a pre-teen kid attitude comes and decide to have his personal little fun at the expense of the others, it is highly insulting and frustrating. Anyone claiming that getting angry at a teammate blowing your team's stuff is immature and illogic because it's only pixels shows their own immaturity. If you get bored playing the game the way it is supposed to be, then stop playing. Without the internet's anonymity, anyone ruining other's fun continually would be likely to be kicked out of the game permanently.... and/or have their face rearranged in a way that would make any Picasso's painting envious...

MoMoMaMa · 04-19-2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXAS NIGHTMARE

the tkers i encounter alot is when Im going for a plane and someone else that cant get there before me shoots me in the back and takes the plane. this REALLY sucks, if im going for a plane and see someone else going for it i back off and let him have it. It sucks to be fighting a war and have to hide from your own teammates.

...mebbe we should ask for a consecutive plane limit option...
i.e. you cannot fly a plane twice in a row, or at least some extended time limit or something...

...sure, it probably won't stop the TKing

04-25-2003, 09:54 PM

>I realize I may spoil a good time for up to a dozen people, but they >need to learn to live with it, you can't live your life complaining that >someone did something that you didn't like, especially if it is about a >game.
You are turning a game into a putdown and then telling people not to take it seriously. You might want to grow up. Your lack of respect for others is somewhat frightening and a clear indicator of your immaturity. If you are 19 years old and still behaving that way, then you might want to get some professional help.

Should be easy to code for. Obviously turning off team damage is an unsatisfactory solution. I agree with the poster above in that folks who make a practice of behaving reprehensibly "just because they can" are a real bane to the rest of us, and clearly lacking in social development.

I miss the Quake days when you could derive the IP address of everyone. If anyone got snotty you could use a second computer to ping them with 1k packets and totally saturate their bandwidth. Or you could send them the ping of death and make them reboot. Second offenders were severely punished by my adding a "ping of death" cron job to my unix host that took them down on the hour every hour.

Is there any way to derive client IP's in BF 1942?

Vizior · 04-28-2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadfly

>I realize I may spoil a good time for up to a dozen people, but they >need to learn to live with it, you can't live your life complaining that >someone did something that you didn't like, especially if it is about a >game.
You are turning a game into a putdown and then telling people not to take it seriously. You might want to grow up. Your lack of respect for others is somewhat frightening and a clear indicator of your immaturity. If you are 19 years old and still behaving that way, then you might want to get some professional help.

Should be easy to code for. Obviously turning off team damage is an unsatisfactory solution. I agree with the poster above in that folks who make a practice of behaving reprehensibly "just because they can" are a real bane to the rest of us, and clearly lacking in social development.

I miss the Quake days when you could derive the IP address of everyone. If anyone got snotty you could use a second computer to ping them with 1k packets and totally saturate their bandwidth. Or you could send them the ping of death and make them reboot. Second offenders were severely punished by my adding a "ping of death" cron job to my unix host that took them down on the hour every hour.

Is there any way to derive client IP's in BF 1942?

IPs are a dangerous thing to be given freely anymore. Too much you can do w/ it. 1 example is figuring out your address, ex.

I prefer not to have everyone know my IP, I don't really mind, but I don't go around advertising.

04-29-2003, 11:10 AM

Even watching you people get pissed over over the talking of TK is funny to me, watching people who can't stand the way others operate is sad. You have no right to decide how I enjoy the game, don't tell me not to play if you don't like the way I play. Maybe you should stop playing if you get so enraged over a video game, I believe that people getting mad over something in life as trivial as a game should seek professional help, at least I know how to enjoy a game, and not have the low intelligence to resort to personal attacks when I see they do something I don't like.

Would I act the way I do in games, the same in real life? No because real life is real, not pixels on a monitor, if you feel that software on a computer is so important to your lives that you get so enraged over a person spoiling it, you need help. Now getting mad over necessitites like food and water, OK, but a game, geez that is sad. ANyway I apologize if I offended anyone here, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the topic, anyway I bid you all a fine farewell (see ya on the battlefield

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BostonBruiser · 04-30-2003, 08:56 AM

I keep reading this stuff and I see several people saying "Play the game the way it was intended" let me ask you, have any of you ever cheated on a video game? Ever use a Game Shark? I sware everyone who preecehes about playing games the way they were meant had better evaluate the way THEY play games, I seriously doubt many (if any) of you can say they have never used codes in games before, and if you have, well then fine, but playing the game your way, and not the developers way is done by most gamers out there, don't make it sound like such a crime. And if a TKer is ruining your time, well leave the game, if everyone left the game a TKer was in he would probably be bummed out and instead of relocating just quit altogether. I realize this is different because it involves you enjoyment, but again if a game can rule your mood, and if some jackass blowing up your planes can make you so upset you can't still play somewhere else, then well I pity you. That's pretty sad.

Lobo{CMG} · 05-02-2003, 04:11 AM

Bruiser and Guest,

Something needs to be pointed out here. The majority isnt ALWAYS right, but we are here. You yahoos are vastly outnumbered by individuals who believe in the concepts of teamwork, integrity (for those who DONT cheat), and fun. Asking us to accept the fact that you ENJOY ruining our good time is foolish, any more than us asking you to ENJOY us taking your lunch money.

There is a stark quality driving most TKers. I mean, of course you got your guy who just suddenly decides to go on a killing spree for whatever reason...sure. But those who admittedly and REPEATEDLY do it have only cowardice. You will not accept this, because no coward truly enjoys his own lack of a spine. They may live with it, but somewhere they hate themselves, or just outright deny it. You will "laugh" at me (us) because we rage at people like you, but I will site the undeniable proof that you CAN NOT deny. You would not do this in real life, and thats what it all boils down to. You would absolutely NOT participate in any kind of a game that you thought was fun (baseball, soccer, hockey, whatever) and prevent your own team from winning. At least, you wouldnt do it repeatedly.

(BTW, the cheating on a video game thing has absolutely no bearing to this point of view, because no matter HOW the designers meant the game to be played, I'll wager every cent I earn till I retire that they DID NOT mean for TKers to have the run of the game.)

Matt

TNT · 05-02-2003, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonBruiser

I keep reading this stuff and I see several people saying "Play the game the way it was intended" let me ask you, have any of you ever cheated on a video game? Ever use a Game Shark? I sware everyone who preecehes about playing games the way they were meant had better evaluate the way THEY play games, I seriously doubt many (if any) of you can say they have never used codes in games before, and if you have, well then fine, but playing the game your way, and not the developers way is done by most gamers out there, don't make it sound like such a crime.

I've grown over the cheating stage, if that mean something to you.

Games do not rule my mood, like probably said earlier. However I like to spend time with them, and I'd rather spend it in the way intended than killing the teamkillers off until I can play like it is intended to. This is probably the case with everyone not-TKer here.

I really can't see the fun shooting another guy to the back or face without even giving him a chance. That's sort of cowardice indeed.

BostonBruiser · 05-05-2003, 11:03 AM

And as I have said before, it isn't cowardice, it's getting bored with the teamwork and screwing around, making the game interesting again. I mean if you guys have ever done anything like expack hopping, or warehouse camping you are not doing things the way they were meant to be, because you are doing things that deny both the realistic qualities of the game, and the fairness factor of the game. Honestly if I don't like the way the game is being played I will do it my way, thats my belief about a game, you won't change it (not do I expect you to accept my practices) and it is my right to do so, otherwise I would have read the "no TKing rule" in the manual. Since it is a game, a tangible, unimportant part of life, I will screw around in it as much as I want (within the bounds of the agreement in the terms of use) if you people don't like it, play a different game, you shouldn't have to change because of TKers, though but TKers shouldn't have to stop playing just because they enjoy the more abstract humor of TKing, rather than team play. I personally think it is way more competitve when I try to TK, I mean both sides trying to fly into me, jeeps ramming me, people on opposite sides teaming up to kill me, it really is quite fun.

Oh and (in my case anyway) I feel it is an abstract form of enjoyment, rather than cowardice. No offense to your beliefs or anything, but would you kindly explain exactly HOW, TKing is a portrait of a coward???

Menson · 05-05-2003, 01:02 PM

i believe in doing things your own way...hell i live my life by it.but i do agree with what Corax said....most of us do have real lives....we enjoy playing this game....the time we are taken away from this hellhole of a world and taken to a world were you can be a hero is important to us.it may seem foolish to you but many of us do not get to do everything we want in real life (such as being a hero,jumping into a tank,ect)and we'd like to spend the little time we play on this game in an enviroment where we can freely play and drift from reality without some smacktard on our own team shooting us.the lack of reality is the reason we play,not just some thing that we obsess over.i dont care to flame you and im not gonna whine and cry but im just pointing out...you say you want to play the way you want to play regardless of proper etiquette....well the same goes for us we would like to play the game as it is intended.its no different from you wanting to kill everyone on your team.

i nor support tking,yet i do agree with playing the way you wanna play.......so tkers will you please let us play such as we have let you kill us many times in a row over and over until we start to get angry.

BostonBruiser · 05-08-2003, 10:42 PM

Finally a person with some good taste manages to grace this flame ridden thread. Of every post I have read in here, the only one that has made any sense to me is yours, it was presented in a clear and concise manner, and you were not confrontational or agressive to my stance on this subject. As such, yours will be the only opinion I will respect on this topic. However that doesn't change my opinion on TKing, I feel that if you don't like whats happening in the game you are in, it is your responsibility to leave, just like I stop TKing if I don't like whats happening. I understand many of you are pressed for time in playing these games, so am I. I have to work and go to school just like most of the other people around here, I am not a menacing 24/7 presence, I usually only do it, maybe like 30 minutes or 1 round every couple days. Overall I would say I get to play an hour, maybe 2 on days with fewer classes.

I don't TK that much, but I am made to be worse than Hitler, but really if I or any TKers hurt your gaming experience I apologize on their behalf, it's just the way I like to play for maybe 30 minutes a day, really equate that to all the hours that you guys may play the game and figure, am I really THAT important?

AutomaticRFL · 05-27-2003, 05:23 AM

My opinion on TKers: (to paraphrase kevin smith) Fuck TKers! Fuck them up their stupid asses!!!

(oh and this too)

quintum · 06-12-2003, 06:51 PM

I've only started playing BF1942 relatively recently and I didn't realise that TK was such an issue. In fact, the servers that I frequent are run by my own internet service provider, the largest one Downunder, and the friendly fire is always off. I haven't been to many other servers and I don't have any experience with TK at all

However, as I got used to the game and became reasonably proficient, and when I play with other people with less experience, it gets boring to be on the winning side and I usually switch team to even out the battle. Afterall, easy, unequal matches, at least for me, are extremely boring.

Now, getting more to the point about TK, I would just like to say that I can't imagine what fun I could possibly derive from such an easy kill - surely my teammates would have no idea that I'd be turning against them. There is just no challenge; like stealing a candy from a baby; kicking a puppy; stabbing a friend in the back. I get bored playing (in the conventional manner) when I am fighting enemy newbies because they are so predictable and easy to pick off - I managed to pick off 8 or 9 enemies in a single run as infantry (I was defending too, so it's not as if I waited for them to spawn and kill - and yes, I think spawn-killing is just as boring but sometimes unavoidable since the flag takes time to actually turn grey). It was actually quite boring for me because it felt like I was fighting computer bots in single player mode - no challenge! (Or maybe my enemies were all TKs! and they were too distracted)

Regarding some comment made about enjoying the game while being on the receiving end of TK? I would be genuinely surprised if TKillers would enjoy the experience if they were on the receiving end of his own medicine - for the first few times, sure, but for the 20th time in a row? I think not. A little amusing at first but be he nonchalant as he is, I doubt if he would enjoy it for too long. I wager he won't stay connected if he was TKed 10 times in a row - nay, far less.

Maybe it's just me but isn't a challenging match more fun? - ie. killing the enemy who would shoot at you, instead of your teammates who, for most of the time, think you're just a part of the scenery. Would anyone bother watching a football match if a few of the players decided that giving the ball away or scoring for the other team would be more fun? In case, some readers don't know what a rhetorical question is - I'm saying it wouldn't. I'm not actually saying TKilling is moraling reprehensible (it's just a game for god's sake (referring to "worse than Hitler" comment), it's just NOT fun! For people who think otherwise, I think you would be better off playing with your barbie doll or just watch the wet washing dry off in a cold day in winter.

dogface {C9} · 06-12-2003, 09:46 PM

For what its worth (IMHO) If you get bored with the game and resort to team killing then go to another server or try another game. So many people are inconsiderate of others that want to enjoy the game they are playing and all tkers do is make it frustrating. If you dont like it LEAVE. Why make others suffer because you cant enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played? Tkers are so busy screwing around killing theyre own tem mates that it allows the enemy to get the upperhand and 9 out of 10 times cause their own team to lose the map. Makes you wonder if they ever heard of the word TEAMWORK not teamkill. Semper Fi

Rambo_Medic · 06-14-2003, 08:32 AM

I like America's Army: Operations' solution, if you kill to many teammates you are taken down and put into prison for war crimes, where you will be raped daily from sweaty prisoners with billions of tattoos and pay for your sick crimes! Dirty tk'ers deserve it!

Go Army lol

10-02-2003, 05:48 AM

TKers do it because they are simply very bad at playing the game and show themself up when they try to play the game as it was intended.

Also they like to wind people up for a buzz because so many people in there real life wind them up so they take this out on peeps by hiding behind a computer and trying to spoil the game for the rest of us.

BTW the reason peeps get anoyed is mainly because they have paid money they work for, for a game and want to relax and have fun and TKers come along [always immature kids in some kind of education] and because mum or dad bought them the game or/and they are crap at it and get picked on try to act hard by spoiling the game for the peeps who had to work hard to buy the game.

You say peeps complaining about TKers are sad......well TBH i think it's sad how peeps can TK and not get bored within 10mins due to the lack of skill of any kind at all. But then again they say simple minds are easily pleased.

I think you will find at the end of the day its the TKers that are being laughed at as everyone knows they are talentless at playing the game and get over excited about doing something anyone could do!

k thats my rant over

P.S. BTW i didn't write this in anger either but with a smile on my face thinking how stupid the Tkers are and imagining there sad lives that TKing gives them a buzz...most will end up TKing themself in real life. Which makes me smile alot!

01-02-2004, 08:41 AM

Tkillers want one thing. To get other gamers upset. So I say, dont let them see your upset. Say "thankyou" or "you are the master" to them everytime. I say don't give them what they want, and they will get board and stop doing it.

Why do Tkillers get a buzz from making gamers get upset?? I would say they are troubled people in themselves.

Why don't they Tkill against BOTs in single player mode, because BOTs are not real people, and they like making people upset because thats the type of people they are.

I personally feel sorry for them, because making other people upset is socially unhealthy.

Angrykirill · 01-02-2004, 11:41 AM

Uh i hate tk!!!

i once was on wake, and i was low on health. our team was loasing tickets quick and me and a medic were the only ones left.
we were in a house. he saw that i was low on health and healed me. after that he just tked me and killed himself with a grenade

i was waiting for next match to kill him but then my server connection was lost

and i didnt remember server name

now i hope that the new kicking function in the 1.6 patch will do a difference

seriosly, i dunno

04-17-2003, 06:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
Lobo{CMG} Private Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Just south of Heaven Posts: 18	Oops Sorry , the above is from me, forgot to login. Wouldn't want anyone thinking I was trying to dodge culpability for my remarks. Matt

04-25-2003, 09:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	TK'ers >I realize I may spoil a good time for up to a dozen people, but they >need to learn to live with it, you can't live your life complaining that >someone did something that you didn't like, especially if it is about a >game. You are turning a game into a putdown and then telling people not to take it seriously. You might want to grow up. Your lack of respect for others is somewhat frightening and a clear indicator of your immaturity. If you are 19 years old and still behaving that way, then you might want to get some professional help. Should be easy to code for. Obviously turning off team damage is an unsatisfactory solution. I agree with the poster above in that folks who make a practice of behaving reprehensibly "just because they can" are a real bane to the rest of us, and clearly lacking in social development. I miss the Quake days when you could derive the IP address of everyone. If anyone got snotty you could use a second computer to ping them with 1k packets and totally saturate their bandwidth. Or you could send them the ping of death and make them reboot. Second offenders were severely punished by my adding a "ping of death" cron job to my unix host that took them down on the hour every hour. Is there any way to derive client IP's in BF 1942?

05-02-2003, 04:11 AM	#29 (permalink)
Lobo{CMG} Private Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Just south of Heaven Posts: 18	Bruiser and Guest, Something needs to be pointed out here. The majority isnt ALWAYS right, but we are here. You yahoos are vastly outnumbered by individuals who believe in the concepts of teamwork, integrity (for those who DONT cheat), and fun. Asking us to accept the fact that you ENJOY ruining our good time is foolish, any more than us asking you to ENJOY us taking your lunch money. There is a stark quality driving most TKers. I mean, of course you got your guy who just suddenly decides to go on a killing spree for whatever reason...sure. But those who admittedly and REPEATEDLY do it have only cowardice. You will not accept this, because no coward truly enjoys his own lack of a spine. They may live with it, but somewhere they hate themselves, or just outright deny it. You will "laugh" at me (us) because we rage at people like you, but I will site the undeniable proof that you CAN NOT deny. You would not do this in real life, and thats what it all boils down to. You would absolutely NOT participate in any kind of a game that you thought was fun (baseball, soccer, hockey, whatever) and prevent your own team from winning. At least, you wouldnt do it repeatedly. (BTW, the cheating on a video game thing has absolutely no bearing to this point of view, because no matter HOW the designers meant the game to be played, I'll wager every cent I earn till I retire that they DID NOT mean for TKers to have the run of the game.) Matt __________________ \"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don\'t give a f**k HOW crazy they are!\" -Seth Gecko

01-02-2004, 11:41 AM	#40 (permalink)
Angrykirill Private Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 68	Uh i hate tk!!! i once was on wake, and i was low on health. our team was loasing tickets quick and me and a medic were the only ones left. we were in a house. he saw that i was low on health and healed me. after that he just tked me and killed himself with a grenade i was waiting for next match to kill him but then my server connection was lost and i didnt remember server name now i hope that the new kicking function in the 1.6 patch will do a difference seriosly, i dunno __________________ \"CNN is always rite and does not lie so the only reasonable conclusion is that CNN is rite\"-Spetsnaz [www.rfforces.net]

04-17-2003, 06:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	HOO RAA, TNT! Well said. I'd like to add, that those who get such enjoyment out of TKing clearly have SOMETHING wrong. It was mentioned earlier that the anonymity lent by internet play is a steroid for the weak, picked on, mentally ill yahoos who actually get a thrill from TKing (or whatever their own brand of Internet Stupidity happens to be). Case in point? I'll wager that ANY TKer, the above included, would NEVER willingly stand in front of home plate at a ball game while his teamy tries to beat the cut-off, or goaltend his teamate's shot in basketball. Why? Because after he did it once or twice, he'd get his ass handed to him, and most likely the opposing team would recognize the TKer's actions and join in on the whuppin. True? Matt

04-17-2003, 09:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
Corax Staff Sergeant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Quebec, CAN Posts: 294	I would like to add something to what TNT said: A bunch of us actually have a life: family, job and other responsabilities. Not everyone can spend hours online playing their favorite games. So when someone take the little free time he has and joins a game where everyone play it the way it is intended to be, he can actually enjoy his free time and relax. When some socially challenged with a pre-teen kid attitude comes and decide to have his personal little fun at the expense of the others, it is highly insulting and frustrating. Anyone claiming that getting angry at a teammate blowing your team's stuff is immature and illogic because it's only pixels shows their own immaturity. If you get bored playing the game the way it is supposed to be, then stop playing. Without the internet's anonymity, anyone ruining other's fun continually would be likely to be kicked out of the game permanently.... and/or have their face rearranged in a way that would make any Picasso's painting envious...

04-29-2003, 11:10 AM	#27 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	Even watching you people get pissed over over the talking of TK is funny to me, watching people who can't stand the way others operate is sad. You have no right to decide how I enjoy the game, don't tell me not to play if you don't like the way I play. Maybe you should stop playing if you get so enraged over a video game, I believe that people getting mad over something in life as trivial as a game should seek professional help, at least I know how to enjoy a game, and not have the low intelligence to resort to personal attacks when I see they do something I don't like. Would I act the way I do in games, the same in real life? No because real life is real, not pixels on a monitor, if you feel that software on a computer is so important to your lives that you get so enraged over a person spoiling it, you need help. Now getting mad over necessitites like food and water, OK, but a game, geez that is sad. ANyway I apologize if I offended anyone here, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the topic, anyway I bid you all a fine farewell (see ya on the battlefield )

04-30-2003, 08:56 AM	#28 (permalink)
BostonBruiser Private Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 44	I keep reading this stuff and I see several people saying "Play the game the way it was intended" let me ask you, have any of you ever cheated on a video game? Ever use a Game Shark? I sware everyone who preecehes about playing games the way they were meant had better evaluate the way THEY play games, I seriously doubt many (if any) of you can say they have never used codes in games before, and if you have, well then fine, but playing the game your way, and not the developers way is done by most gamers out there, don't make it sound like such a crime. And if a TKer is ruining your time, well leave the game, if everyone left the game a TKer was in he would probably be bummed out and instead of relocating just quit altogether. I realize this is different because it involves you enjoyment, but again if a game can rule your mood, and if some jackass blowing up your planes can make you so upset you can't still play somewhere else, then well I pity you. That's pretty sad.

05-05-2003, 11:03 AM	#31 (permalink)
BostonBruiser Private Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 44	And as I have said before, it isn't cowardice, it's getting bored with the teamwork and screwing around, making the game interesting again. I mean if you guys have ever done anything like expack hopping, or warehouse camping you are not doing things the way they were meant to be, because you are doing things that deny both the realistic qualities of the game, and the fairness factor of the game. Honestly if I don't like the way the game is being played I will do it my way, thats my belief about a game, you won't change it (not do I expect you to accept my practices) and it is my right to do so, otherwise I would have read the "no TKing rule" in the manual. Since it is a game, a tangible, unimportant part of life, I will screw around in it as much as I want (within the bounds of the agreement in the terms of use) if you people don't like it, play a different game, you shouldn't have to change because of TKers, though but TKers shouldn't have to stop playing just because they enjoy the more abstract humor of TKing, rather than team play. I personally think it is way more competitve when I try to TK, I mean both sides trying to fly into me, jeeps ramming me, people on opposite sides teaming up to kill me, it really is quite fun. Oh and (in my case anyway) I feel it is an abstract form of enjoyment, rather than cowardice. No offense to your beliefs or anything, but would you kindly explain exactly HOW, TKing is a portrait of a coward???

05-05-2003, 01:02 PM	#32 (permalink)
Menson Sergeant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: B.C. Canada GMT-8 Posts: 309	i believe in doing things your own way...hell i live my life by it.but i do agree with what Corax said....most of us do have real lives....we enjoy playing this game....the time we are taken away from this hellhole of a world and taken to a world were you can be a hero is important to us.it may seem foolish to you but many of us do not get to do everything we want in real life (such as being a hero,jumping into a tank,ect)and we'd like to spend the little time we play on this game in an enviroment where we can freely play and drift from reality without some smacktard on our own team shooting us.the lack of reality is the reason we play,not just some thing that we obsess over.i dont care to flame you and im not gonna whine and cry but im just pointing out...you say you want to play the way you want to play regardless of proper etiquette....well the same goes for us we would like to play the game as it is intended.its no different from you wanting to kill everyone on your team. i nor support tking,yet i do agree with playing the way you wanna play.......so tkers will you please let us play such as we have let you kill us many times in a row over and over until we start to get angry.

05-08-2003, 10:42 PM	#33 (permalink)
BostonBruiser Private Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 44	Finally a person with some good taste manages to grace this flame ridden thread. Of every post I have read in here, the only one that has made any sense to me is yours, it was presented in a clear and concise manner, and you were not confrontational or agressive to my stance on this subject. As such, yours will be the only opinion I will respect on this topic. However that doesn't change my opinion on TKing, I feel that if you don't like whats happening in the game you are in, it is your responsibility to leave, just like I stop TKing if I don't like whats happening. I understand many of you are pressed for time in playing these games, so am I. I have to work and go to school just like most of the other people around here, I am not a menacing 24/7 presence, I usually only do it, maybe like 30 minutes or 1 round every couple days. Overall I would say I get to play an hour, maybe 2 on days with fewer classes. I don't TK that much, but I am made to be worse than Hitler, but really if I or any TKers hurt your gaming experience I apologize on their behalf, it's just the way I like to play for maybe 30 minutes a day, really equate that to all the hours that you guys may play the game and figure, am I really THAT important?

05-27-2003, 05:23 AM	#34 (permalink)
AutomaticRFL Private Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 25	My opinion on TKers: (to paraphrase kevin smith) Fuck TKers! Fuck them up their stupid asses!!! (oh and this too)

06-12-2003, 06:51 PM	#35 (permalink)
quintum Private Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1	I've only started playing BF1942 relatively recently and I didn't realise that TK was such an issue. In fact, the servers that I frequent are run by my own internet service provider, the largest one Downunder, and the friendly fire is always off. I haven't been to many other servers and I don't have any experience with TK at all However, as I got used to the game and became reasonably proficient, and when I play with other people with less experience, it gets boring to be on the winning side and I usually switch team to even out the battle. Afterall, easy, unequal matches, at least for me, are extremely boring. Now, getting more to the point about TK, I would just like to say that I can't imagine what fun I could possibly derive from such an easy kill - surely my teammates would have no idea that I'd be turning against them. There is just no challenge; like stealing a candy from a baby; kicking a puppy; stabbing a friend in the back. I get bored playing (in the conventional manner) when I am fighting enemy newbies because they are so predictable and easy to pick off - I managed to pick off 8 or 9 enemies in a single run as infantry (I was defending too, so it's not as if I waited for them to spawn and kill - and yes, I think spawn-killing is just as boring but sometimes unavoidable since the flag takes time to actually turn grey). It was actually quite boring for me because it felt like I was fighting computer bots in single player mode - no challenge! (Or maybe my enemies were all TKs! and they were too distracted) Regarding some comment made about enjoying the game while being on the receiving end of TK? I would be genuinely surprised if TKillers would enjoy the experience if they were on the receiving end of his own medicine - for the first few times, sure, but for the 20th time in a row? I think not. A little amusing at first but be he nonchalant as he is, I doubt if he would enjoy it for too long. I wager he won't stay connected if he was TKed 10 times in a row - nay, far less. Maybe it's just me but isn't a challenging match more fun? - ie. killing the enemy who would shoot at you, instead of your teammates who, for most of the time, think you're just a part of the scenery. Would anyone bother watching a football match if a few of the players decided that giving the ball away or scoring for the other team would be more fun? In case, some readers don't know what a rhetorical question is - I'm saying it wouldn't. I'm not actually saying TKilling is moraling reprehensible (it's just a game for god's sake (referring to "worse than Hitler" comment), it's just NOT fun! For people who think otherwise, I think you would be better off playing with your barbie doll or just watch the wet washing dry off in a cold day in winter.

06-12-2003, 09:46 PM	#36 (permalink)
dogface {C9} Private 1st Class Join Date: May 2003 Location: United States Posts: 112	For what its worth (IMHO) If you get bored with the game and resort to team killing then go to another server or try another game. So many people are inconsiderate of others that want to enjoy the game they are playing and all tkers do is make it frustrating. If you dont like it LEAVE. Why make others suffer because you cant enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played? Tkers are so busy screwing around killing theyre own tem mates that it allows the enemy to get the upperhand and 9 out of 10 times cause their own team to lose the map. Makes you wonder if they ever heard of the word TEAMWORK not teamkill. Semper Fi

10-02-2003, 05:48 AM	#38 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	TKers do it because they are simply very bad at playing the game and show themself up when they try to play the game as it was intended. Also they like to wind people up for a buzz because so many people in there real life wind them up so they take this out on peeps by hiding behind a computer and trying to spoil the game for the rest of us. BTW the reason peeps get anoyed is mainly because they have paid money they work for, for a game and want to relax and have fun and TKers come along [always immature kids in some kind of education] and because mum or dad bought them the game or/and they are crap at it and get picked on try to act hard by spoiling the game for the peeps who had to work hard to buy the game. You say peeps complaining about TKers are sad......well TBH i think it's sad how peeps can TK and not get bored within 10mins due to the lack of skill of any kind at all. But then again they say simple minds are easily pleased. I think you will find at the end of the day its the TKers that are being laughed at as everyone knows they are talentless at playing the game and get over excited about doing something anyone could do! k thats my rant over P.S. BTW i didn't write this in anger either but with a smile on my face thinking how stupid the Tkers are and imagining there sad lives that TKing gives them a buzz...most will end up TKing themself in real life. Which makes me smile alot!

01-02-2004, 08:41 AM	#39 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	Tkillers want one thing. To get other gamers upset. So I say, dont let them see your upset. Say "thankyou" or "you are the master" to them everytime. I say don't give them what they want, and they will get board and stop doing it. Why do Tkillers get a buzz from making gamers get upset?? I would say they are troubled people in themselves. Why don't they Tkill against BOTs in single player mode, because BOTs are not real people, and they like making people upset because thats the type of people they are. I personally feel sorry for them, because making other people upset is socially unhealthy.