TK:S solution

10-14-2002, 12:48 AM

Simple... a vote system doesn`t work...... score - 5 = auto kick....... Why not? and why not now? and.. a player that has minus score should not be able to change team.
keep it simple.

Sam Sneak · 10-14-2002, 06:04 PM

That will definitely not work. It doesnt take into account the reason for the death. As front line engineer, even though I kill quite a few people, I usually end up going out in a huge explosion that takes me out also. Hence the 0 or -1 or -2 score. Landmines at a jeep trying to run you over is an example. Also, suiciding on the carrier so I can have a full repair meter and can fix the ship that's been blown to pieces by people tking on the deck.

Here's a thought, if you're really that bored, be an engineer and grab a jeep and drive around and fix people's vehicles or be a medic and heal them.

10-14-2002, 08:38 PM

then... the same problem as before. - 5 or - 8, whatever! I don`t think that suicide crashing ( bombing ) should be an accepted part of the game.
Simply.. In mohaa the vote system doesn`t work because a majority of the players dont know how. Don`t think it would work in BF either. ( sorry for my spelling ) An auto kick system is the only way........... I think.
The " shoot a friend get hurt" stuff only did things worse ( as we all seen ) That bored? Yes I`m f**** bored of always have a TK in the game, with a - 46 score. If you are a good engineer, or other ( that you proberly not are) you don`t get kicked.

10-14-2002, 08:40 PM

forgot to log in...

dmojo

10-16-2002, 04:25 AM

With Half-Life, we had a forgive system. If you got a tk, someone could forgive it if it was an accident. But if they did not, and you got 5 tks, you were kicked. It was easy to forgive, a message popped up on how to do it when the tk happened. Killing yourself did not count as a tk.

Sam Sneak · 10-16-2002, 09:43 PM

dmojo you aren't listening when someone is trying to run you over with a jeep and you frisbee a landmine directly forward and the explosion kills you how is that bad. I am not camping merely saving my team from a psycho racing around in a jeep.

Your idea is stupid. What about engineers who fix the carrier, get fragged by dumbass teammates or blown up by enemy planes without a chance to kill an enemy. Would they not have a negative score while fulfilling a purpose (repairing a damaged ship). I understand your point but it doesn't take into affect the entire picture.

=GT=DemoD*ck · 10-16-2002, 09:44 PM

the solution for tkers is to track them down after they killed you and kill them.... then go find them again and kill them again! repeat until the tker logs off

Sam Sneak · 10-16-2002, 09:49 PM

Word.

xcorporalx · 10-16-2002, 09:51 PM

right on guys! that's the spirit. in a non teamplay server i will ALWAYS hunt them down....especially using their own requests against them to pinpoint them on the mini-map when they talk smack.

eventually they will get tired of being the 'soup du jour', especially when you have EVERYBODY against you......

Chucky Yoto Fujita · 10-17-2002, 05:34 PM

Well , I started playing BF 1942 Demo last week, the game is awesome!! I dont have many complaints at all.. but having a T1 line, I usually host a server game everynight named ( Time to make the Donuts ) , anyway, after playing about an hour of great gaming, a guy logs our team and just goes crazy!! Killing all of our Teammates , he would shot me, and when I respawned , he shot me again.. !! Damn , that pissed me off!!! All my teammates were pissed also, they were telling me to kick him off.. after 10 mins, I still couldnt figure how to kick him off, by this time he had killed so many of us , and he had wrote " Im a spy " .. BullS*$%t .. Your ruining a great game !! Im getting really good at this game but I dont much about server options.. Is there any options to kick a player off? If so let me know.. I have read most of these forums but have not seen an answer yet.. , Anyway, This game rules!! and I cant wait to get home and play again!! See you on the battlefield tonight guys!! Later.. Chucky

:P

10-22-2002, 01:54 PM

Quite simple use ASE to filter servers w/o FF On.

Cheapshot · 11-01-2002, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

then... the same problem as before. - 5 or - 8, whatever! I don`t think that suicide crashing ( bombing ) should be an accepted part of the game.

If I remeber correctly, there were suicide bombers in planes in WWII. Simply put, this idea isn't the way to go. Sorry.

11-20-2002, 07:27 PM

I tried to explain to my friend "Don't do that" ie: TK... and he just said "everyone else does it on BF1942, it is different on Tribes," he continued, "if someone shoots you, you get a med kit/gun (whatever the technical term is...) and repair them and your self." I think that is what should happen here, and if the person is bored, get off the servers and play another game that doesn't involve killing.

11-22-2002, 08:45 PM

I like the CS idea where you can choose to punish the TKer

11-23-2002, 08:26 PM

In the Half-Life Mod FireArms (and maybe in HL itself) the TK kick system has very good. Hell! I blew up my best friend with a claymore once, but I also took off half the enemy team. I wan's kicked. Another time I pissed him off and out of the blue he turned around and blew my brains out. He was dishonorably discharged (kicked). How the game decides, I don't know, but I haven't seen it make a mistake once (note: I know all the people I play with). Maybe if you kill an ally in action, it can be forgiver (a few times). The real fun is, when the server gets kicked, though

11-25-2002, 01:42 AM

What about us who like to grab a good old AchiVal and drive ourselfs into the enemy battleships? Kamakazeeing was a know tactict for the japs in ww2...

12-04-2002, 07:52 PM

I disagree with the notion that team-killers are normal people like the rest of us. I have to think they are probably the victims of abuse, whether by their parents or spouses or the system they attempt to cope with in real life. They are beaten down and mad about it. They are powerless in their own lives to affect change, and eager to vent through the spreading of malice and bad feelings. Now they can log on and almost effortlessly ruin the game for a whole bunch of people. People who could be (in their twisted little minds) their drunk daddy, @ssh0le boss or whomever. Classic transference of aggression . Now they too can have a little power, admit it they certainly can raise blood pressures, cause people to scream (caps) and swear and even leave the game they were almost surely enjoying. Take that, daddy.

Yes, there are already a couple of methods in place to thwart these mal-intentioned individuals. As we all know the server can disable team kills. Wow, what a great idea, except that almost none of them do it. Why would the default be to leave FF on???? What is the intent of that? There is also a vote system in place in BF 1942 but it is so poorly implemented and difficult to administer that nobody knows what to do, NOT EVEN THE SERVERS. I tried to explain it to about 30 people in a game which was being ruined by some low-life, and after about 1/2 hour of typing and retyping instructions, 1 guy figured it out. Great, open your console, type a line of code and get everybody else to do it in 5 seconds, or the event times out. Plllbbbttt. What a joke. It's almost like the people who design the game thought that the distraction of trying to get a vote going would take enough time from you that the TKer would eventually leave before you could realize it was nearly impossible to kick him.

Look, when some scum bag is popping off team members 2 and 3 at a time, every 5- 10 seconds his name continually comes up as a TKer, we all know who the jerk is. It doesn't take a rocket science degree or the ability to vote in Florida to know what could solve the problem. A little button, easy to find, easy to press. Everyone votes (based on a fair percentage of the populace to decide), then BANG : Boot the bugger and ban the IP or domain for an hour or so.

~OnZ oUt~

Devious Bob · 12-05-2002, 08:05 AM

i think everyone agrees that a useable vote system is a must for BF, but ive never heard it in such a bright colour before

s**t its bright, isnt it?

OnZ EBC · 12-05-2002, 10:08 AM

Okay, now I have my gamma set properly, I see what you mean. I apologize for my brightness (font-wise) on my previous post. It's kinda like looking into the sun .... at noon .... from the equator. (aboard an airplane) It seemed like a great idea at the time.
Oh well, break out the Oakleys

baby, there's a new noob in town.

Zacher · 12-05-2002, 10:01 PM

Return to Castle Wolfenstein, had a kick ass voting system. U had the choice of initiaing a vote manually or:

If you were team killed by a player, an option appeared and said something like, "Do you wish to send a strike towards <playername>?" F1 - yes F2 -No. After a player had 3 of these, they where automatically kicked from server, along with IP and name banned from server. U can set the number of Bad votes they get with TK as the server admin, and how long they where banned for. Worked really nice!!!

Rule of thumb for me was if the TK didn't say sorry within 5 seconds of killing me it was F1. Plus my other rule of thumb was to say sorry twice if I accidently TK'd someone. Look it up.. Best TK Voting system out there!

10-14-2002, 12:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	TK:S solution Simple... a vote system doesn`t work...... score - 5 = auto kick....... Why not? and why not now? and.. a player that has minus score should not be able to change team. keep it simple.

10-16-2002, 09:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
=GT=DemoDck Sergeant* Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 362	the solution for tkers is to track them down after they killed you and kill them.... then go find them again and kill them again! repeat until the tker logs off __________________ There will one day spring from the brain of science a machine or force so fearful in its potentialities, so absolutely terrifying, that even man, the fighter, who will dare torture and death in order to inflict torture and death, will be appalled, and so abandon war forever ~Thomas Edison

10-16-2002, 09:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
xcorporalx Sergeant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 360	right on guys! that's the spirit. in a non teamplay server i will ALWAYS hunt them down....especially using their own requests against them to pinpoint them on the mini-map when they talk smack. eventually they will get tired of being the 'soup du jour', especially when you have EVERYBODY against you...... __________________ xcorporalx

11-20-2002, 07:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	team killing I tried to explain to my friend "Don't do that" ie: TK... and he just said "everyone else does it on BF1942, it is different on Tribes," he continued, "if someone shoots you, you get a med kit/gun (whatever the technical term is...) and repair them and your self." I think that is what should happen here, and if the person is bored, get off the servers and play another game that doesn't involve killing.

11-22-2002, 08:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	I like I like the CS idea where you can choose to punish the TKer

10-14-2002, 06:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sam Sneak Private Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11	That will definitely not work. It doesnt take into account the reason for the death. As front line engineer, even though I kill quite a few people, I usually end up going out in a huge explosion that takes me out also. Hence the 0 or -1 or -2 score. Landmines at a jeep trying to run you over is an example. Also, suiciding on the carrier so I can have a full repair meter and can fix the ship that's been blown to pieces by people tking on the deck. Here's a thought, if you're really that bored, be an engineer and grab a jeep and drive around and fix people's vehicles or be a medic and heal them.

10-14-2002, 08:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	then... the same problem as before. - 5 or - 8, whatever! I don`t think that suicide crashing ( bombing ) should be an accepted part of the game. Simply.. In mohaa the vote system doesn`t work because a majority of the players dont know how. Don`t think it would work in BF either. ( sorry for my spelling ) An auto kick system is the only way........... I think. The " shoot a friend get hurt" stuff only did things worse ( as we all seen ) That bored? Yes I`m f**** bored of always have a TK in the game, with a - 46 score. If you are a good engineer, or other ( that you proberly not are) you don`t get kicked.

10-14-2002, 08:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	forgot to log in... dmojo

10-16-2002, 04:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	With Half-Life, we had a forgive system. If you got a tk, someone could forgive it if it was an accident. But if they did not, and you got 5 tks, you were kicked. It was easy to forgive, a message popped up on how to do it when the tk happened. Killing yourself did not count as a tk.

10-16-2002, 09:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sam Sneak Private Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11	dmojo you aren't listening when someone is trying to run you over with a jeep and you frisbee a landmine directly forward and the explosion kills you how is that bad. I am not camping merely saving my team from a psycho racing around in a jeep. Your idea is stupid. What about engineers who fix the carrier, get fragged by dumbass teammates or blown up by enemy planes without a chance to kill an enemy. Would they not have a negative score while fulfilling a purpose (repairing a damaged ship). I understand your point but it doesn't take into affect the entire picture.

10-16-2002, 09:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sam Sneak Private Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11	Word.

10-17-2002, 05:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chucky Yoto Fujita Private Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glendale Az Posts: 6	Well , I started playing BF 1942 Demo last week, the game is awesome!! I dont have many complaints at all.. but having a T1 line, I usually host a server game everynight named ( Time to make the Donuts ) , anyway, after playing about an hour of great gaming, a guy logs our team and just goes crazy!! Killing all of our Teammates , he would shot me, and when I respawned , he shot me again.. !! Damn , that pissed me off!!! All my teammates were pissed also, they were telling me to kick him off.. after 10 mins, I still couldnt figure how to kick him off, by this time he had killed so many of us , and he had wrote " Im a spy " .. BullS*$%t .. Your ruining a great game !! Im getting really good at this game but I dont much about server options.. Is there any options to kick a player off? If so let me know.. I have read most of these forums but have not seen an answer yet.. , Anyway, This game rules!! and I cant wait to get home and play again!! See you on the battlefield tonight guys!! Later.. Chucky :P

10-22-2002, 01:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Quite simple use ASE to filter servers w/o FF On.

11-23-2002, 08:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	FireArms? In the Half-Life Mod FireArms (and maybe in HL itself) the TK kick system has very good. Hell! I blew up my best friend with a claymore once, but I also took off half the enemy team. I wan's kicked. Another time I pissed him off and out of the blue he turned around and blew my brains out. He was dishonorably discharged (kicked). How the game decides, I don't know, but I haven't seen it make a mistake once (note: I know all the people I play with). Maybe if you kill an ally in action, it can be forgiver (a few times). The real fun is, when the server gets kicked, though

11-25-2002, 01:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	KAMAKAZEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (I think I spelt that wrong) What about us who like to grab a good old AchiVal and drive ourselfs into the enemy battleships? Kamakazeeing was a know tactict for the japs in ww2...

12-04-2002, 07:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Anonymous Posts: n/a	Unusually small reproductive organs I disagree with the notion that team-killers are normal people like the rest of us. I have to think they are probably the victims of abuse, whether by their parents or spouses or the system they attempt to cope with in real life. They are beaten down and mad about it. They are powerless in their own lives to affect change, and eager to vent through the spreading of malice and bad feelings. Now they can log on and almost effortlessly ruin the game for a whole bunch of people. People who could be (in their twisted little minds) their drunk daddy, @ssh0le boss or whomever. Classic transference of aggression . Now they too can have a little power, admit it they certainly can raise blood pressures, cause people to scream (caps) and swear and even leave the game they were almost surely enjoying. Take that, daddy. Yes, there are already a couple of methods in place to thwart these mal-intentioned individuals. As we all know the server can disable team kills. Wow, what a great idea, except that almost none of them do it. Why would the default be to leave FF on???? What is the intent of that? There is also a vote system in place in BF 1942 but it is so poorly implemented and difficult to administer that nobody knows what to do, NOT EVEN THE SERVERS. I tried to explain it to about 30 people in a game which was being ruined by some low-life, and after about 1/2 hour of typing and retyping instructions, 1 guy figured it out. Great, open your console, type a line of code and get everybody else to do it in 5 seconds, or the event times out. Plllbbbttt. What a joke. It's almost like the people who design the game thought that the distraction of trying to get a vote going would take enough time from you that the TKer would eventually leave before you could realize it was nearly impossible to kick him. Look, when some scum bag is popping off team members 2 and 3 at a time, every 5- 10 seconds his name continually comes up as a TKer, we all know who the jerk is. It doesn't take a rocket science degree or the ability to vote in Florida to know what could solve the problem. A little button, easy to find, easy to press. Everyone votes (based on a fair percentage of the populace to decide), then BANG : Boot the bugger and ban the IP or domain for an hour or so. ~OnZ oUt~

12-05-2002, 08:05 AM	#18 (permalink)
Devious Bob Corporal Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 163	i think everyone agrees that a useable vote system is a must for BF, but ive never heard it in such a bright colour before s**t its bright, isnt it?

12-05-2002, 10:08 AM	#19 (permalink)
OnZ EBC Private Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1	Argh Okay, now I have my gamma set properly, I see what you mean. I apologize for my brightness (font-wise) on my previous post. It's kinda like looking into the sun .... at noon .... from the equator. (aboard an airplane) It seemed like a great idea at the time. Oh well, break out the Oakleys baby, there's a new noob in town. __________________ \"T\'is far better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.\"

12-05-2002, 10:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zacher Sergeant Major of the Army Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 771	Return to Castle Wolfenstein, had a kick ass voting system. U had the choice of initiaing a vote manually or: If you were team killed by a player, an option appeared and said something like, "Do you wish to send a strike towards <playername>?" F1 - yes F2 -No. After a player had 3 of these, they where automatically kicked from server, along with IP and name banned from server. U can set the number of Bad votes they get with TK as the server admin, and how long they where banned for. Worked really nice!!! Rule of thumb for me was if the TK didn't say sorry within 5 seconds of killing me it was F1. Plus my other rule of thumb was to say sorry twice if I accidently TK'd someone. Look it up.. Best TK Voting system out there! __________________ \"You keep using that word -- I do not think it means what you think it means.\"